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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 8082003" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>The "metaphysical" aspects of much of this evil - ie it is not just personal or political venality but corruption that manifests as demon summoning, human sacrifice, etc - and the corresponding religious/providential tone of much of the good - especially the clerics and paladins and their gods - sit at odds with the ostensible S&S tone of GH.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say that there is no S&S in GH, but it's not a pure or even predominantly S&S setting. Which makes sense, because D&D - with its clerics and paladins and lower and upper planes, and it's Tolkienesque Dwarves and Elves and Orcs - is not purely or even predominantly S&S in its tropes.</p><p></p><p>S&S doesn't have to be amoral - REH's Conan is a killer but not an amoral one - but it tends to emphasis the protagonists as the source of, and imposer of, value. There is room in S&S for demons and human-sacrificing anti-clerics; but not for paladins or divine providence or the notion of diabolical powers hoping to corrupt humanity. In this sense at least S&S is irreligious. Whereas GH is not irreligious on the whole.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 8082003, member: 42582"] The "metaphysical" aspects of much of this evil - ie it is not just personal or political venality but corruption that manifests as demon summoning, human sacrifice, etc - and the corresponding religious/providential tone of much of the good - especially the clerics and paladins and their gods - sit at odds with the ostensible S&S tone of GH. That's not to say that there is no S&S in GH, but it's not a pure or even predominantly S&S setting. Which makes sense, because D&D - with its clerics and paladins and lower and upper planes, and it's Tolkienesque Dwarves and Elves and Orcs - is not purely or even predominantly S&S in its tropes. S&S doesn't have to be amoral - REH's Conan is a killer but not an amoral one - but it tends to emphasis the protagonists as the source of, and imposer of, value. There is room in S&S for demons and human-sacrificing anti-clerics; but not for paladins or divine providence or the notion of diabolical powers hoping to corrupt humanity. In this sense at least S&S is irreligious. Whereas GH is not irreligious on the whole. [/QUOTE]
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