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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5778304" data-attributes="member: 2011">I think the 3E method was better in one regard. The PCs could fight a longer day with more encounters, especially if the spell casters had wands or staves.It's a bit annoying as a player when I design my 4E PC to be both offensive and defensive, and hence, my PC uses healing surges at a 1 to 2 rate per encounter on average, and some other player ignores defenses and consistently ends up using 3 to 4 healing surges per encounter. In 3 encounters, that PC is mostly done and then the players start attempting to force options like Comrade's Succor down everyone's throats.The entire healing surge concept is not well though out. It works, but it has some drawbacks.As can be seen by PathFinder, there are healing solutions that do not use healing surges, but are also not the bag of healing potions of 3.5.One potential solution to the healing surge mechanic is to give Leader classes stronger short rest healing. As an example, every PC who wants to is totally healed up, but only uses one healing surge to do so.Another option is to double the number of core class healing surges (additional surges from CON or feats are not doubled). I find it a bit lame that they have feats like Durable anyway. The feat has no excitement to it at all. It's not cool. It's just a hole filler.I've heard here on the boards that some groups run out of Daily powers before they ever run out of healing surges. That has not been my experience on average. The groups I play in almost always run out of healing surges before they run out of Daily powers, especially once they get past mid-heroic. This is especially true with the increased monster damage from last year.</blockquote>

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