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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mathew_Freeman" data-source="post: 4806821" data-attributes="member: 1846">That's a great response to what I posted, thanks. Let me elaborate:What I mean is that I really like the mechanics of 4e, even if I can see why people have problems justifying them in terms of description.A good example is the Come and Get It Power. I totally understand why people dislike the idea that a Fighter can just pull people next to him without having to make a roll, particularly if they are, say, a huge Dragon or Beholder, or Vecna or something. I get that.On the other hand, as a mechanical power, it utterly rocks. It makes the Fighter feel like a total bad-ass, it feels great as a player and I love the concept.That's what I'm talking about when I say the fun is up front and centre, and the fluff and description comes afterwards.Other things I like:Daily/encounter/at-will powers for all classes. Puts everyone on an equal footing and gives everyone options all the time.Minions & eiltes. Really helps differentiate monsters from each other.Monsters aren't the same as characters.Warlock pacts - love the idea, but need to spend some more time developing the in-game details with my Warlock player.Character roles - it's brilliant as a DM to know that a certain mix of characters will "work" as a party, even if it's not immediately obvious how.Monster roles - makes plotting encounters easy.Character builder - hours of fun.Healing surges & milestones - help the character to continue to adventure</blockquote>

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