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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hereticus" data-source="post: 4807729" data-attributes="member: 83093">Skills: I like the simpler system of 17 skills rather than 30 to 40. We house-ruled Quickness (initiative) as the 18th skill. I do not like that all skills go up at the same rate. perhaps a system where you increase 12 skills by one, and have five to double up on well practiced favorites. I like the skill challenges.Feats: As a Wizard, I think the feats are better. Some of the martial players in my group were not as thrilled with them. I miss the meta-magic feats, and rarely used item creation in the old system. And once I learned multi-classing (here), I think it is great.First Level Survivability: 4.0E characters are stronger at first level, but are still limited to fighting Kobolds, Goblins, Skeletons and Beetles.Variety of Monsters: Much better in 4.0E, you can alter a wider variety of monsters to fight a Heroic, Paragon or Epic group. I like Minions, Elites and Solos.Martial Exploits: Much superior, this give the 'boring' Fighter so much more to do than in the past.Divine Prayers: 4.0E killed the Cleric as it was in the previous editions, and I loved playing those Clerics. 4.0E Clerics are closer to 3.5E Paladins, 4.0E needs a divine controller. I have not yet seen a Druid, so I have no comment.Arcane Spells: First and foremost, I played Wizards in the older editions. As I previously said they are much more survivable at lower levels, can fight better, but I miss spells such as Expeditious Retreat, Silent Illusion, and Rope Trick. No, I haven't purchased arcane Power yet, I only have five books.Quantity of Books Required to Play: Any group can play with just the three core books, but it seems that WotC is bleeding us dry with an increased quantity of core books.Rituals: Rituals (and magic items) are the only things that cost gold, and in my opinion they cost too much to cast spells that used to be free. And most take ten minutes or longer, and that is too long. I believe they were designed to take longer than the five minutes I have with a utility spell. And as stated I on another thread here, almost nobody uses rituals at lower levels.Utility Spells: I love these, and have gotten great use of Feather Fall & Shield, Disguise & Invisibility, and Arcane Gate & Blur. But I also want my Dispel Magic! I would like to see utilities be castable as rituals.Healing Surges: I see the value, but I do not like them. Giving everyone alot of healing enabled them to get rid of spell casting Clerics.Character Classes: As I said above, many old favorites are either missing or unrecognizable. If I can find a game, I will try running something other than a Wizard. I chose my old favorite to start with.Character Races: I like that 4.0E got rid of LA and racial HD from 3.5E, they made many fun races unplayable. However I am not yet fond of new races such as Dragonborn, Deva, Goliaths and Shifters. Give me Drow, Duergar, Svirfneblin, Derro (sane), Lizardfolk, Githyanki, Githzerai, Gnolls and Hobgoblins.Magic Items: This system stinks. Just add gold and you can instantly have any item you want. This is broken, and I do not see any way to fix it.Action Points: I like these alot. But give them to monsters and you will see characters cry.Cosmology: Simple is better, and 4.0 has a much simplified cosmology.Forgotten Realms: It was overdeveloped and needed a reset.</blockquote>

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