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Message: <blockquote data-quote="daddystabz" data-source="post: 4471749" data-attributes="member: 54231">CONTINUED!  GM Sarli already addressed all this in Jedi Counseling article #111 on the WotC website. He seemed to agree with me a lot, in my opinion. I posted his way of determining transgressions he gave above. Now for example: If I fight against some opponents who refuse to surrender and who attack my friends and myself and are trying to kill us and I end up using force grip to keep a bad guy from slicing my friend with a vibroaxe, accidentally killing him, if you use this method you can easily answer 2 of these questions as "no." I did not harm a creature that was at my mercy and no to the result being intentional. This means accoridng to this philosophical framework that my transgression is considered a minor transgression and probably does not deserve a dark side point. This is according to one of the devs of the game! GM Sarli.  GM Sarli goes on in the same Jedi Counseling #111 article to state this again but in a similar situation as using Force Grip.  "Q: Would Severing Strike be a major transgression? It seems that you'd never learn this talent unless you intended to maim others.  A: No, Severing Strike, in itself, is not a transgression because it is designed to protect your target from an otherwise lethal blow. The same would be true for a doctor who has to perform a medical amputation. Although the act is "maiming" in the strictest sense, it is only to protect the target from a more dangerous medical problem. This doesn't mean that Severing Strike can't be used in a blatantly evil way, of course. Cutting off the limbs of an enemy who is at your mercy would still be tantamount to torture no matter how you do it (by lightsaber, scalpel, or angry Wookiee)." P.S. When Yoda said the force is used for defense and never for attack what he meant is what I've been saying this whole time! You don't go off with the force and attack others, hoping to harm them in some way. But if you use it to DEFEND OTHERS or YOURSELF then you are within your rights to do so. I would argue that when Anakin attacked Obi-Wan, trying to kill him on Mustafar, after Obi-Wan warned him not to try it because he had the high ground, that Kenobi did not deserve a dark side point. In the Legacy comics Kenobi severs the arm of the future dark lord of the sith, A'Sharad Hett, when Hett was in hiding as a jedi on Tatooine. He severs his arm and then puts away his saber and refuses to finish him off. I would argue that this does not deserve a dark side point as well. Kenobi was trying to stop Hett from attacking settlers as a tusken chief and Kenobi came out to confront him. Kenobi spared him in the end, having taught him a lesson. This is how I try to play my character. I try to give my enemies a chance to surrender or to flee but our GM never bites. He always has nearly every enemy attacks us over and over until they die. That doesn't leave us jedi with much choice.</blockquote>

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