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<blockquote data-quote="Alraiis" data-source="post: 4406623" data-attributes="member: 61131">Flavor arguments are a bit tricky.&nbsp; After all, the flavor of positioning strike is that you shove the target.&nbsp; If he's weak and stumbling, it's not unreasonable to assume that he'll fall over after he gets shoved around.Also, what about cause fear?&nbsp; Is there a distinction?I see what you're saying, Khime, about the fact that forced movement &quot;does not count as a move action by the target,&quot; but the power isn't quite that specific.&nbsp; &quot;In a single action&quot; could refer to anyone's action, and isn't restricted to move actions.But, if &quot;if the target moves&quot; is as restrictive as you say, let me ask this: If a target is force-moved into a wall of fire, does it take damage?&nbsp; Remember that wall of fire says &quot;If a creature moves into the wall's space....&quot;&nbsp; If the language of forced movement were as strict as you suggest, a slide through a wall of fire would be harmless....But maybe it is?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alraiis, post: 4406623, member: 61131"] Flavor arguments are a bit tricky. After all, the flavor of [I]positioning strike [/I]is that you shove the target. If he's weak and stumbling, it's not unreasonable to assume that he'll fall over after he gets shoved around. Also, what about [I]cause fear[/I]? Is there a distinction? I see what you're saying, Khime, about the fact that forced movement "does not count as a move action by the target," but the power isn't quite that specific. "In a single action" could refer to anyone's action, and isn't restricted to move actions. But, if "if the target moves" is as restrictive as you say, let me ask this: If a target is force-moved into a [I]wall of fire[/I], does it take damage? Remember that [I]wall of fire[/I] says "If a creature moves into the wall's space...." If the language of forced movement were as strict as you suggest, a slide through a [I]wall of fire [/I]would be harmless. ...But maybe it is? [/QUOTE]

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