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<blockquote data-quote="Carnivorous_Bean" data-source="post: 4136118" data-attributes="member: 57974"><p>The arguments against 4th edition in this thread are complete failures because they are contradicted by the explicitly printed descriptions of shifting powers in the 4e rules that we've been given previews of. They are specious and invalid.</p><p></p><p>Tide of Iron, a physical shifting skill, explicitly states that <strong>you can only shift something one size category larger than you are, your size, or smaller. </strong> This is explicitly stated in the rules. Laid out in black in white. No exceptions.</p><p></p><p>By the 4th edition RAW, THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY for a Halfling warrior to shift a gargantuan dragon (unless the halfling is magically inflated to one size category lower or an equal or larger size category). </p><p></p><p>Please read the rules available before you comment on them, because it will save you a lot of angst, and spare the rest of us having to debunk these incorrect statements over and over again.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Carnivorous_Bean, post: 4136118, member: 57974"] The arguments against 4th edition in this thread are complete failures because they are contradicted by the explicitly printed descriptions of shifting powers in the 4e rules that we've been given previews of. They are specious and invalid. Tide of Iron, a physical shifting skill, explicitly states that [B]you can only shift something one size category larger than you are, your size, or smaller. [/B] This is explicitly stated in the rules. Laid out in black in white. No exceptions. By the 4th edition RAW, THERE IS LITERALLY NO WAY for a Halfling warrior to shift a gargantuan dragon (unless the halfling is magically inflated to one size category lower or an equal or larger size category). Please read the rules available before you comment on them, because it will save you a lot of angst, and spare the rest of us having to debunk these incorrect statements over and over again. [/QUOTE]
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