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<blockquote data-quote="Lanefan" data-source="post: 4136630" data-attributes="member: 29398">This all assumes, of course, that the battles are taking place in a relatively open area, large cavern, or similar, where there's lots of room to move (and be moved) around.&nbsp; So far, it sounds like adventure design is gearing towards this.In open-field battles in older editions I've seen and played PCs (and enemies) who do all kinds of moving around - running in and out of the battle, going for better positioning, etc.&nbsp; The AoO rules absolutely killed this in 3e - nobody dared move further than 5' once they were engaged.For 4e, I'll be interested to see how these battles and abilities play out in more traditional small-scale dungeon settings, with 10'-wide passages and 20x20 rooms all full of combatants.&nbsp; And if I was building a place I wanted to defend, the last thing I'd want to do would be to incorporate lots of large open areas that only serve to give mobility-based attackers the advantage. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Lanefan</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Lanefan, post: 4136630, member: 29398"] This all assumes, of course, that the battles are taking place in a relatively open area, large cavern, or similar, where there's lots of room to move (and be moved) around. So far, it sounds like adventure design is gearing towards this. In open-field battles in older editions I've seen and played PCs (and enemies) who do all kinds of moving around - running in and out of the battle, going for better positioning, etc. The AoO rules absolutely killed this in 3e - nobody dared move further than 5' once they were engaged. For 4e, I'll be interested to see how these battles and abilities play out in more traditional small-scale dungeon settings, with 10'-wide passages and 20x20 rooms all full of combatants. And if I was building a place I wanted to defend, the last thing I'd want to do would be to incorporate lots of large open areas that only serve to give mobility-based attackers the advantage. :) Lanefan [/QUOTE]

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