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<blockquote data-quote="WayneLigon" data-source="post: 3602057" data-attributes="member: 3649">It is probably not reasonable to expect D&amp;D to do this, but it's perfectly reasonable to expect an RPG to do this; D&amp;D - and most easlier RPG's - start you out low and build you up high. Most other games start you out at a higher level of competancy but your progression is slower in most respects. Sometimes I have a character concept that fits well with being 2nd level, and sometimes not. When I have a concept that's really 'better' than my current character's level, I find ways of showing he's done more or is 'more experienced' than just pure combat. (Though it's really hard to do that with a spellcaster, it's comparatively easy to do that with a rogue or fighter - most of your earlier adventures can be ascribed to pure luck - ie really, really good die rolls.)I think the game should accomodate most reasonable concepts; the game ain't in charge here, I am. If it doesn't, then the game needs to be changed. I'm confident that as D&amp;D continues to grow up, it'll change more towards a form that allows more choice and more of a sliding scale as far as power levels go. People won't automatically assume 'we start as first level peons'; they'll pick a range of power levels to play with.Now, I think a majority of fictional fantasy characters can be accomodated quite well in D&amp;D because most people insist on rating fantasy characters as much, much higher level than they actually are. Aragorn must be an Epic Level ranger! Wow! No, I'd put him about 5th level or so with a couple of really darn good items. But that gets back to what I said above; there are a lot of concepts that it's easier to 'fake' being more competant than perhaps the rules really say you are. The Take 10 and Take 20 rules are marvelous for this. A GM who is confident enough to fiddle with the DCs is also a big help.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WayneLigon, post: 3602057, member: 3649"] It is probably not reasonable to expect[I] D&D[/I] to do this, but it's perfectly reasonable to expect an RPG to do this; D&D - and most easlier RPG's - start you out low and build you up high. Most other games start you out at a higher level of competancy but your progression is slower in most respects. Sometimes I have a character concept that fits well with being 2nd level, and sometimes not. When I have a concept that's really 'better' than my current character's level, I find ways of showing he's done more or is 'more experienced' than just pure combat. (Though it's really hard to do that with a spellcaster, it's comparatively easy to do that with a rogue or fighter - most of your earlier adventures can be ascribed to pure luck - ie really, really good die rolls.) I think the game should accomodate most reasonable concepts; the game ain't in charge here, I am. If it doesn't, then the game needs to be changed. I'm confident that as D&D continues to grow up, it'll change more towards a form that allows more choice and more of a sliding scale as far as power levels go. People won't automatically assume 'we start as first level peons'; they'll pick a range of power levels to play with. Now, I think a majority of fictional fantasy characters [I]can [/I] be accomodated quite well in D&D because most people insist on rating fantasy characters as much, much higher level than they actually are. Aragorn must be an Epic Level ranger! Wow! No, I'd put him about 5th level or so with a couple of really darn good items. But that gets back to what I said above; there are a lot of concepts that it's easier to 'fake' being more competant than perhaps the rules really say you are. The Take 10 and Take 20 rules are marvelous for this. A GM who is confident enough to fiddle with the DCs is also a big help. [/QUOTE]

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