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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Liolel" data-source="post: 1417247" data-attributes="member: 1766">Wow your group did much worse then my group (3 level 4 characters at the begining) did for this level. My group found the chimney used a rope to climb down, and the orcs started coming but the party was well ready in the kitchen with only 1 entrance. Eventually the orcs figured out that a frontal assult on the kitchen was foolish but they had suffered so many losses that the next time the party came the orcs were wiped out. So the orcs had fairly bad tactics (hey their orcs, they have an intelligance penelty, its roleplaying) and the party had good tactics leading to a tough but winable fight.   If you want to see a fight go sour, you should check out how my party dealt with the brown bear. The brown bear got out and engaged the fighter. The whole party was still in the passage leading to the room from the south. The fighter was knocked down and the bear attacked the sorceror who was trapped between the cleric and the bear. Finally the cleric killed the bear, but two out of three party members were dying. But since it was the cleric who was standing they didn't die.  Edit: You asked about the roper and dragon. I haven't got to the dragon yet (waiting eagerly for that fight) but the roper I just took out, because it was an encounter diplomancy seemed to be the only option for, but it gave far to few hints that the monster was to tough. I replaced it with 3 dugear warriors who used nice tactics (invisable as they here the party come, and two enlarge, then crossbow barrage, followed by the nonenlarged one at a bottle neck using full defesne, and the enlarged ones attacking with their reach. ) but they had to low of an attack bonus to make much of a dent in the fighter who led and I rolled realy poorly. You win some you lose some.</blockquote>

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