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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jeff Wilder" data-source="post: 3439731" data-attributes="member: 5122">Thanks!The forge seeker, as I wrote in the prepended paragraphs, is intended as sort of an ad hoc diplomatic corps for dwarves.  Among other things, Diplomacy is required because the entire idea is to be able to convince other people to allow you to use their forges -- presumably, the tools of their livelihood.  8 ranks are required because that limits the level at which the class can be entered.  Nobody can get into it until 6th level.It actually was ...exactly those two options.  But it just became too many requirements, and I realized those two were the least important to the feel of the class.It's not a bad idea, and again I considered it, but, again, so many requirements.  (It wouldn't bother me at all, since my PC has the feat, but it's pretty exclusionary.  Note that if I used these last two suggestions, a dwarf cleric wouldn't actually be able to choose a feat until 9th level ... this class eats them all until then.)Why would a monk want damage bonuses when using a warhammer?I considered setting a minimum level of divine spells (it's another way to limit the level at which the class can be entered), but it's not really necessary.Battle Hammer is actually lifted from the Battlesmith, in Races of Stone.  It's a fairly powerful ability ... intentionally so, since the PC is giving up a caster level.  Yur option is way too weak, IMO. It's not.  As wirtten in the description, only LG, LN, and NG users can get the bonuses.Fire immunity at 14th character level (the earliest it could come) isn't particularly strong.I like the adamantine juxtaposed with the metallic nature of the apotheosis.Clerics already don't require sleep.That's a good idea.  I'll keep it in mind as I work through future drafts with my DM.  (It would suck for my PC in particular, unfortunately, as he has no ability to turn undead, but that's irrelevant for the class in and of itself.)That's not really what the class is about.  While the forge seeker can make use of the forge blessing he creates, the primary reason for it is to build goodwill among other folks who work at the forge.  Accordingly, if the forge seeker wants to take advantage of forge blessing, he can buy his own item creation feats.This sidesteps the idea of the class, again.  Why seek out new people to befriend, and new forges to bless, if you can just summon up one of your own?</blockquote>

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