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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7259490" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>No, you don't get away with utterly dismissing the desires of others just because you don't agree.</p><p></p><p>First off, let's put something straight. The only good use of the "valuation system" in the DMG is for people like you to claim the game has one. Otherwise, it's utterly rubbish, as this very thread attests.</p><p></p><p>Thus, when you claim "plenty of folks have put forth third-party systems for valuation systems" that's another willfully blatant misrepresentation - you know anything as vague or haphazardous as the DMs rarity system is useless for the purposes of the OP and this thread.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore there is exactly one (1) third-party system that I know of that meets the basic quality criteria discussed here and that is the "Sane prices" effort (and the thread has so far not found any more).</p><p></p><p>Now then, the way you muck in the faces of everybody complaining gold is useless. The game used to provide an outlet for people playing official supplements in the official manner, that is, with little or no downtime, and with the official DMG gold amounts. It was not perfect, but it allowed PCs to convert their gold into advantages during the continued adventure.</p><p></p><p>Now it doesn't. And it does not offer anything in its place. The gold just sits there.</p><p></p><p>Now tell me exactly why the withdrawal of a great feature is somehow not something we are allowed to take WotC to task for, and do explain why players are "lazy" for not wanting to take on this herculean task by themselves (the fact that nobody has offered a comparable 3PP system does suggest it is a very large work)?</p><p></p><p>So in summary: everything you have said so far is provably wrong, and your every argument boils down to simple insults of people having the temerity to point out how your perfect edition is still lacking in key areas, even three years after release.</p><p></p><p>Have a nice day.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7259490, member: 12731"] No, you don't get away with utterly dismissing the desires of others just because you don't agree. First off, let's put something straight. The only good use of the "valuation system" in the DMG is for people like you to claim the game has one. Otherwise, it's utterly rubbish, as this very thread attests. Thus, when you claim "plenty of folks have put forth third-party systems for valuation systems" that's another willfully blatant misrepresentation - you know anything as vague or haphazardous as the DMs rarity system is useless for the purposes of the OP and this thread. Furthermore there is exactly one (1) third-party system that I know of that meets the basic quality criteria discussed here and that is the "Sane prices" effort (and the thread has so far not found any more). Now then, the way you muck in the faces of everybody complaining gold is useless. The game used to provide an outlet for people playing official supplements in the official manner, that is, with little or no downtime, and with the official DMG gold amounts. It was not perfect, but it allowed PCs to convert their gold into advantages during the continued adventure. Now it doesn't. And it does not offer anything in its place. The gold just sits there. Now tell me exactly why the withdrawal of a great feature is somehow not something we are allowed to take WotC to task for, and do explain why players are "lazy" for not wanting to take on this herculean task by themselves (the fact that nobody has offered a comparable 3PP system does suggest it is a very large work)? So in summary: everything you have said so far is provably wrong, and your every argument boils down to simple insults of people having the temerity to point out how your perfect edition is still lacking in key areas, even three years after release. Have a nice day. [/QUOTE]
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