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Message: <blockquote data-quote="gabrion" data-source="post: 2828059" data-attributes="member: 30779">[sblock=AT]Ok, so a few things.  First off, I posted a poll <a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=162381" target="_blank">here</a> about the natural bond issue.  Last time I checked, 27 people thought my interpretation of the Natural Bond feat was right, while 15 thought it was wrong.  Of the 27 who said the Rules support my reading, 9 of them said that even though the feat does allow for that, it shouldn't.Besides the poll, I found some other info that you might want to take into consideration though.  The real issue is what order the bonuses/penalties are applied, right?  You said that Natural Bond is applied first and that the adjustment from the Alternate Animal Companion entry on pg. 36 of the PHB is applied after that.  Thus a wizard 1/druid 5 with a fleshraker companion applies the benefit of the feat, giving him a +1 bonus (since his effective level can't be higher than his character level), and then subtracts three levels because of the improved nature of the companion, bringing his effective level down to three.You said your reading of the Natural Bond feat was based at least in part on the way Practiced Spellcaster works.  When I replied that a straight caster could benefit from Practiced Spellcaster if they had the Mage Band feat, you said that was two feats interacting, whereas the druid issue was a feat interacting with a class ability.  So I thought to help my case, I should bring up some examples where Practiced Spellcaster interacts with  class abilities (namely domain powers and the wild magic ability fromt he wild mage).  (red added by me)The point here is that WotC has made a clear stance that when these kinds of things come into question, they operate in the way that offers the best benefit to the character.  If you're using Practiced Spellcaster as your basis for the natural spell feat, it seems like you would also use this standard.[/sblock]</blockquote>

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