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<blockquote data-quote="rogueattorney" data-source="post: 2317121" data-attributes="member: 17551">Back in 1987, when it first came out, I bought it and ran my 1e campaign in it until about 1991.&nbsp; I eventually got fed up with it because all the rpg products seemed to be tied into non-rpg products (novels, computer games, etc.) that didn't interest me.&nbsp; The impression I got was that the products didn't stand on their own.&nbsp; I got rid of those products about the same time I stopped DMing that campaign.I've since re-acquired the 1e FR greybox, and it's not as bad as I remembered it.&nbsp; I think a number of my issues probably stemmed from subsequent materials.&nbsp; Comparing it to the 1983 Greyhawk box (probably the most analogous product in terms of time-period, format,&nbsp; and content), it is definitely much more NPC focused, more geographically focused on a smaller region (the areas from the Sword Coast to the Moonsea), and has a less dark tone, with many of the recent 'big baddies' defeated.&nbsp; There's a reason that so many early FR campaigns focused on the Zhentarim - they were really the only looming threat presented in the original box.&nbsp; It has a bit more 'lived-in' feel than Greyhawk, like the difference between buying a furnished or unfurnished appartment.&nbsp; Greyhawk seems more tied to the ruleset than FR (not surprising considering the author of Greyhawk and since TSR had already announced the coming of 2e when FR was published).Thus, if someone put a gun to my head and told me I could only run my 1e campaign in one or the other, I'd pick Greyhawk.&nbsp; Luckily no one's doing that.&nbsp; (I do notice that the Greyhawk campaign seems to show the East half of a continent and the FR campaign seems to be positioned on the West half of its continent...&nbsp; hmmmmm...&nbsp; possibilities)Anyway, a little historical perspective as to why there might be some latent FR hatin' out there.R.A.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rogueattorney, post: 2317121, member: 17551"] Back in 1987, when it first came out, I bought it and ran my 1e campaign in it until about 1991. I eventually got fed up with it because all the rpg products seemed to be tied into non-rpg products (novels, computer games, etc.) that didn't interest me. The impression I got was that the products didn't stand on their own. I got rid of those products about the same time I stopped DMing that campaign. I've since re-acquired the 1e FR greybox, and it's not as bad as I remembered it. I think a number of my issues probably stemmed from subsequent materials. Comparing it to the 1983 Greyhawk box (probably the most analogous product in terms of time-period, format, and content), it is definitely much more NPC focused, more geographically focused on a smaller region (the areas from the Sword Coast to the Moonsea), and has a less dark tone, with many of the recent 'big baddies' defeated. There's a reason that so many early FR campaigns focused on the Zhentarim - they were really the only looming threat presented in the original box. It has a bit more 'lived-in' feel than Greyhawk, like the difference between buying a furnished or unfurnished appartment. Greyhawk seems more tied to the ruleset than FR (not surprising considering the author of Greyhawk and since TSR had already announced the coming of 2e when FR was published). Thus, if someone put a gun to my head and told me I could only run my 1e campaign in one or the other, I'd pick Greyhawk. Luckily no one's doing that. (I do notice that the Greyhawk campaign seems to show the East half of a continent and the FR campaign seems to be positioned on the West half of its continent... hmmmmm... possibilities) Anyway, a little historical perspective as to why there might be some latent FR hatin' out there. R.A. [/QUOTE]

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