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<blockquote data-quote="Swordsage" data-source="post: 2318348" data-attributes="member: 14904">I have to disagree here. Quite simply, 2E provided the best FR sourcebooks to date and I don't understand the 'more crunch, less fluff' assertion. Products such as &quot;Sea of Fallen Stars&quot; and &quot;Empires of the Shining South&quot; are all about the realmslore, &quot;Cloak &amp; Dagger&quot; was devoid of crunch and classic releases such as &quot;Code of the Harpers&quot;, &quot;Secrets of the Magister&quot; and the 'god books' came into being, some of them benchmarks for the setting.1E by comparison gave us broad, low-level of detail sourcebooks that yes, were good for DMs who enjoyed lots of elbow room and putting in a lot of their own stuff, but were hampered by low page count and some total product aberrations (like &quot;The Great Glacier&quot;). Sure, 2E had its share of turkeys as well (&quot;Cormyr&quot; and &quot;Arcane Age: Netheril&quot;) but on the whole was more consistent than 1E - you knew that if you bought something with the name Greenwood, Schend or Boyd on the cover, that you were getting good stuff.&nbsp;No, GH is now the bastard splat-book setting dump for WotC/Hasbro now. FR in 3.XE has been initially uneven but IMO is now very much on the upswing. &quot;Lost Empires of Faerun&quot; and &quot;Shining South&quot; were solid products and &quot;City of Splendors: Waterdeep&quot; promises much. The crunch/fluff pendulum is swinging away from PrCs and feats to some degree (which is a good thing) but we have to realise that we are not buying encyclopedias, we are buying gaming products which, funnily enough, will always have stuff about the game in them. Makes perfect sense really. Good gaming to you.-- The Swordsage</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Swordsage, post: 2318348, member: 14904"] I have to disagree here. Quite simply, 2E provided the best FR sourcebooks to date and I don't understand the 'more crunch, less fluff' assertion. Products such as "Sea of Fallen Stars" and "Empires of the Shining South" are all about the realmslore, "Cloak & Dagger" was devoid of crunch and classic releases such as "Code of the Harpers", "Secrets of the Magister" and the 'god books' came into being, some of them benchmarks for the setting. 1E by comparison gave us broad, low-level of detail sourcebooks that yes, were good for DMs who enjoyed lots of elbow room and putting in a lot of their own stuff, but were hampered by low page count and some total product aberrations (like "The Great Glacier"). Sure, 2E had its share of turkeys as well ("Cormyr" and "Arcane Age: Netheril") but on the whole was more consistent than 1E - you knew that if you bought something with the name Greenwood, Schend or Boyd on the cover, that you were getting good stuff. No, GH is now the bastard splat-book setting dump for WotC/Hasbro now. FR in 3.XE has been initially uneven but IMO is now very much on the upswing. "Lost Empires of Faerun" and "Shining South" were solid products and "City of Splendors: Waterdeep" promises much. The crunch/fluff pendulum is swinging away from PrCs and feats to some degree (which is a good thing) but we have to realise that we are not buying encyclopedias, we are buying gaming products which, funnily enough, will always have stuff about the game in them. Makes perfect sense really. Good gaming to you. -- The Swordsage [/QUOTE]

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