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<blockquote data-quote="Primal" data-source="post: 4852367" data-attributes="member: 30678"><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">No, you’re not one of the guys who don’t do their homework, if you’ve read the books you own. See below on what I wrote of reading the accessories you own. And, you can find a lot of FR-related information online, for example in FR Wiki.</span></span><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">There has been quite a many Chosen of Mystra over the years (and other deities have Chosen as well, e.g. Fzoul Chembryl as the Chosen of Bane in FRCS)…including the Seven Sisters. </span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Well, if you’re going to run a campaign in Cormyr, I’d probably expect you to read ‘Cormyr’-accessory and ‘Volo’s Guide to Cormyr’ as well. And if you’re running a Waterdeep campaign, I’d suggest reading at least the ‘City of Splendors’ boxed set. If you’re running your game in Silverymoon, ‘Volo’s guide to the North’ and ‘Savage Frontier’ would be good sources (and Lady Alustriel is detailed in 3E FRCS, by the way). If you don’t own the books, *then* it’s another matter; I don’t expect the DM to invest heavily (financially) in every campaign, i.e. order 1E/2E stuff via Amazon or eBay just to run it according to the canon. However, if you *do* own the books, I’d expect you to read the sources you have on Silverymoon or Cormyr or wherever you want to place your campaign in.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Um, what? I think I did explain that I don’t care about DM/campaign-specific changes, *if* they’re logical and/or explained in-game as well; if a DM would, however, implement the Eberron pantheon into his FR campaign and drop Greyhawk City into the middle of the Western Heartlands just because he can, I’d probably have a problem with that. Just as I’m sure Eberron fans would have a problem if in my campaign I’d replace Karrnath’s (sp?) ruler with a mid-level paladin NPC called Fritz van Uberwalder and swap Sharn with Suzail from FR (and unless I’m wrong, Karrnath’s ruler is a pretty high-level undead NPC who, as many Eberron fans would likely point out, could not be killed by a mid-level solo paladin).</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Although I love details and using as much as lore as possible, I don’t adhere slavishly to canon, if I think changing or ignoring something benefits the campaign. As for my comment about worldbuilding… did you realize that it wasn’t a jab at you? It was simply a personal opinion that I don’t waste my time in campaigns in which the DM rewrites everything just because he feel reading the books [he owns] is too much work.</span></span></p><p> <span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">You can run a campaign with a single book, but using a detailed setting with experienced players might not be a good idea if the DM is new to the setting. And this applies to Dragonlance, Eberron, Dark Sun and any other setting you choose to name just as well as it does to FR. As I’ve said, I could just pick up ECS and run an Eberron campaign on basis of that… however, I’m fairly sure that many Eberron experts would point out that I shouldn’t run a campaign in Stormreach or adventures in Argonessen without proper sourcebooks and maps. I *could* say that it’s my Eberron campaign… but then again, so you could with FR, too. Also, many regions in FR haven't received much attention since the Grey Boxed Set anyway,</span></span> so it would be way easier to set a campaign in one of these areas if you feel your players know more about the "popular" areas than you do.</p><p></p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">And this also depends on the players, too... I've run games for people who were not into details or taking notes, and I remember a few times when such players told me to skip descriptions and details and get to rolling initiative. On the other hand, my own regular players favor social interaction, history, details and intrigue over combat, and everyone takes notes about everything.</span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Change for change’s sake and/or ignoring published material or replacing it with something else because you don’t like to read accessories you own is bad in my books. I'm okay with changes that are internally consistent and logical (i.e. there's a plausible reason, and it doesn't "break" any "rules" of the setting), especially if you're changing something because you feel it's going to benefit everyone.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p> </p><p> <span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px">Because for many fans that level of details was the lure and “meat” of the setting?</span></span><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Primal, post: 4852367, member: 30678"] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]No, you’re not one of the guys who don’t do their homework, if you’ve read the books you own. See below on what I wrote of reading the accessories you own. And, you can find a lot of FR-related information online, for example in FR Wiki.[/SIZE][/FONT][SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]There has been quite a many Chosen of Mystra over the years (and other deities have Chosen as well, e.g. Fzoul Chembryl as the Chosen of Bane in FRCS)…including the Seven Sisters. [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Well, if you’re going to run a campaign in Cormyr, I’d probably expect you to read ‘Cormyr’-accessory and ‘Volo’s Guide to Cormyr’ as well. And if you’re running a Waterdeep campaign, I’d suggest reading at least the ‘City of Splendors’ boxed set. If you’re running your game in Silverymoon, ‘Volo’s guide to the North’ and ‘Savage Frontier’ would be good sources (and Lady Alustriel is detailed in 3E FRCS, by the way). If you don’t own the books, *then* it’s another matter; I don’t expect the DM to invest heavily (financially) in every campaign, i.e. order 1E/2E stuff via Amazon or eBay just to run it according to the canon. However, if you *do* own the books, I’d expect you to read the sources you have on Silverymoon or Cormyr or wherever you want to place your campaign in. [/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Um, what? I think I did explain that I don’t care about DM/campaign-specific changes, *if* they’re logical and/or explained in-game as well; if a DM would, however, implement the Eberron pantheon into his FR campaign and drop Greyhawk City into the middle of the Western Heartlands just because he can, I’d probably have a problem with that. Just as I’m sure Eberron fans would have a problem if in my campaign I’d replace Karrnath’s (sp?) ruler with a mid-level paladin NPC called Fritz van Uberwalder and swap Sharn with Suzail from FR (and unless I’m wrong, Karrnath’s ruler is a pretty high-level undead NPC who, as many Eberron fans would likely point out, could not be killed by a mid-level solo paladin).[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Although I love details and using as much as lore as possible, I don’t adhere slavishly to canon, if I think changing or ignoring something benefits the campaign. As for my comment about worldbuilding… did you realize that it wasn’t a jab at you? It was simply a personal opinion that I don’t waste my time in campaigns in which the DM rewrites everything just because he feel reading the books [he owns] is too much work.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=2] [/SIZE][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]You can run a campaign with a single book, but using a detailed setting with experienced players might not be a good idea if the DM is new to the setting. And this applies to Dragonlance, Eberron, Dark Sun and any other setting you choose to name just as well as it does to FR. As I’ve said, I could just pick up ECS and run an Eberron campaign on basis of that… however, I’m fairly sure that many Eberron experts would point out that I shouldn’t run a campaign in Stormreach or adventures in Argonessen without proper sourcebooks and maps. I *could* say that it’s my Eberron campaign… but then again, so you could with FR, too. Also, many regions in FR haven't received much attention since the Grey Boxed Set anyway,[/SIZE][/FONT] so it would be way easier to set a campaign in one of these areas if you feel your players know more about the "popular" areas than you do. [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]And this also depends on the players, too... I've run games for people who were not into details or taking notes, and I remember a few times when such players told me to skip descriptions and details and get to rolling initiative. On the other hand, my own regular players favor social interaction, history, details and intrigue over combat, and everyone takes notes about everything.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] Change for change’s sake and/or ignoring published material or replacing it with something else because you don’t like to read accessories you own is bad in my books. I'm okay with changes that are internally consistent and logical (i.e. there's a plausible reason, and it doesn't "break" any "rules" of the setting), especially if you're changing something because you feel it's going to benefit everyone.[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Because for many fans that level of details was the lure and “meat” of the setting?[/SIZE][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2] [/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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