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<blockquote data-quote="vini_lessa" data-source="post: 5375903" data-attributes="member: 99104">Hi there,Ive never liked Forgotten Realms. It always seemed to me a mish-mash of &quot;probably anything the author found cool when was a teen&quot; shaken up and thrown in a map. Never saw anything in there that myself (or any other folk) couldnt come up with given only time and willing to do so.That said..Recently, a colleague told me about a fabled &quot;1st edition Gray Box&quot; and how the setting was much less convoluted and much more &quot;pristine&quot; by then. And the more important - that there was a &quot;vision&quot; that somehow justifyed the setting absurdities (that Faerun was, in fact, a kind of planar crossroads or something, and even was linked though portals to our Earth. What I, as a Planescape fan, perceived as &quot;proto-planescape&quot; or something. It seems this &quot;vision&quot; was purposefully downplayed in the following editions ?). Further, this pal said by then there wasnt the big metagame with uber-NPCs running around and cataclisms happening yearly. (exageration, of course).So, could this fable &quot;Gray Box&quot; redeem the setting to me? Thanks! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />(just so you know where I come from, my references in fantasy settings are Glorantha, Tekumel, Jorune and Planescape - this one more conceptually than in its implemented form, but this is talk for another time. ).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vini_lessa, post: 5375903, member: 99104"] Hi there, Ive never liked Forgotten Realms. It always seemed to me a mish-mash of "probably anything the author found cool when was a teen" shaken up and thrown in a map. Never saw anything in there that myself (or any other folk) couldnt come up with given only time and willing to do so. That said.. Recently, a colleague told me about a fabled "1st edition Gray Box" and how the setting was much less convoluted and much more "pristine" by then. And the more important - that there was a "vision" that somehow justifyed the setting absurdities (that Faerun was, in fact, a kind of planar crossroads or something, and even was linked though portals to our Earth. What I, as a Planescape fan, perceived as "proto-planescape" or something. It seems this "vision" was purposefully downplayed in the following editions ?). Further, this pal said by then there wasnt the big metagame with uber-NPCs running around and cataclisms happening yearly. (exageration, of course). So, could this fable "Gray Box" redeem the setting to me? Thanks! ;) (just so you know where I come from, my references in fantasy settings are Glorantha, Tekumel, Jorune and Planescape - this one more conceptually than in its implemented form, but this is talk for another time. ). [/QUOTE]

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