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<blockquote data-quote="Werthead" data-source="post: 9384915" data-attributes="member: 7045643"><p>They had the opportunity to reboot the Realms in 2014 but I gather than Salvatore and Greenwood decided that, whilst they hated the Spellplague, undoing it meant decanonising some six years' worth of novels (including their own!) and rolling back a whole ton of lore developments. So whilst it was tempting to do a reset to the "classic" Realms timeframe, they ultimately decided that it was too disrespectful to the dozens of writers who'd done their best to make the Spellplague work. So they undid the effects of the Spellplague, reset the geography not just to 3E but all the way back to 2E (since they low-key disliked those changes as well) and rebooted the pantheon but kept the advancing of the timeline intact.</p><p></p><p>Since all of the 5E adventures, many of them very well-selling for TTRPG adventures, take place in the 1480s/1490s DR timeframe, plus the movie, plus the few 5E-era novels, plus all the comics and then BG3, the chances of them resetting the timeline were always slim. Plus resetting the timeline would mean you'd still have to explain why dragonborn are around (they arrived on Toril in the Spellplague), why tieflings are so much more common than back in the day etc.</p><p></p><p>The other settings are all relatively much more obscure, so they can do more what they want with them. Plus they had already experimented this with 4E <strong>Dark Sun</strong>, which IIRC booted out the late 2E changes and reverted to the classic setting. </p><p></p><p>The idea that the different media tie-ins are in their own canon might be what they say to avoid problems, but they also contradict themselves: the film had novel tie-ins and also established that the cartoon series characters are canonically in the Realms, which both the comics and the new core rulebooks seem to be following up on. BG3 is apparently the canonical continuation of the events in <em>Descent to Avernus</em>, and reportedly is now crossing over with a novel prequel next year (though still not 100% confirmed I believe).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Werthead, post: 9384915, member: 7045643"] They had the opportunity to reboot the Realms in 2014 but I gather than Salvatore and Greenwood decided that, whilst they hated the Spellplague, undoing it meant decanonising some six years' worth of novels (including their own!) and rolling back a whole ton of lore developments. So whilst it was tempting to do a reset to the "classic" Realms timeframe, they ultimately decided that it was too disrespectful to the dozens of writers who'd done their best to make the Spellplague work. So they undid the effects of the Spellplague, reset the geography not just to 3E but all the way back to 2E (since they low-key disliked those changes as well) and rebooted the pantheon but kept the advancing of the timeline intact. Since all of the 5E adventures, many of them very well-selling for TTRPG adventures, take place in the 1480s/1490s DR timeframe, plus the movie, plus the few 5E-era novels, plus all the comics and then BG3, the chances of them resetting the timeline were always slim. Plus resetting the timeline would mean you'd still have to explain why dragonborn are around (they arrived on Toril in the Spellplague), why tieflings are so much more common than back in the day etc. The other settings are all relatively much more obscure, so they can do more what they want with them. Plus they had already experimented this with 4E [B]Dark Sun[/B], which IIRC booted out the late 2E changes and reverted to the classic setting. The idea that the different media tie-ins are in their own canon might be what they say to avoid problems, but they also contradict themselves: the film had novel tie-ins and also established that the cartoon series characters are canonically in the Realms, which both the comics and the new core rulebooks seem to be following up on. BG3 is apparently the canonical continuation of the events in [I]Descent to Avernus[/I], and reportedly is now crossing over with a novel prequel next year (though still not 100% confirmed I believe). [/QUOTE]
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