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<blockquote data-quote="Yaarel" data-source="post: 9789216" data-attributes="member: 58172"><p>To be fair, all these groups are . . . from the same planet! I dont think Toril cares about the details.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Regarding Chessenta. My impression is, this Greece despite what Greenwood says. <a href="https://www.sageadvice.eu/could-you-tell-us-a-little-about-your-original-chessenta-i-guess-it-was-not-based-on-ancient-greece-right/" target="_blank">Greenwood stated</a> in 2020, it wasnt "originally" Greece, and pushing back a bit, compared Chessenta to 1400s Italy instead. Yet the fan base seems to understand it to be Greece anyway. And to be fair, Greece does make much more sense in the context of the Earthling "Old Empires" of Egypt and Mesopotamia.</p><p></p><p>Heh, Greenwood actually goes so far as to insist, "no part of my original Realms was based on any direct real-world analogues". Heh, this seems to me, a gygaxian level of implausible deniability. (LOL. Gygax denied Tolkien influence.) I assume Greenwood is the one who made the Moonshae Isles Celtic. He refers profusely to Norse traditions, American Indigenous traditions, lampshades for Greek gods, etcetera etcetera. These are all based on direct reallife analogues.</p><p></p><p>In any case, the Egypt−Sumer−Greece team up is the one that seems to prevail among the way that dedicated fans play the Forgotten Realms.</p><p></p><p></p><p>(For the record, I prefer using reallife analogues in D&D, because it encourages creators to pay attention to ethnic diversity. I also like adding into the mix, truly novel cultures that dont really refer to reallife history. But I feel, if using reallife names from ethnic heritages, it self-imposes an obligation to accurately represent this name and doublecheck reallife sensitivities. When modifying a culture, it is easier to modify the name too.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Yaarel, post: 9789216, member: 58172"] To be fair, all these groups are . . . from the same planet! I dont think Toril cares about the details. Regarding Chessenta. My impression is, this Greece despite what Greenwood says. [URL='https://www.sageadvice.eu/could-you-tell-us-a-little-about-your-original-chessenta-i-guess-it-was-not-based-on-ancient-greece-right/']Greenwood stated[/URL] in 2020, it wasnt "originally" Greece, and pushing back a bit, compared Chessenta to 1400s Italy instead. Yet the fan base seems to understand it to be Greece anyway. And to be fair, Greece does make much more sense in the context of the Earthling "Old Empires" of Egypt and Mesopotamia. Heh, Greenwood actually goes so far as to insist, "no part of my original Realms was based on any direct real-world analogues". Heh, this seems to me, a gygaxian level of implausible deniability. (LOL. Gygax denied Tolkien influence.) I assume Greenwood is the one who made the Moonshae Isles Celtic. He refers profusely to Norse traditions, American Indigenous traditions, lampshades for Greek gods, etcetera etcetera. These are all based on direct reallife analogues. In any case, the Egypt−Sumer−Greece team up is the one that seems to prevail among the way that dedicated fans play the Forgotten Realms. (For the record, I prefer using reallife analogues in D&D, because it encourages creators to pay attention to ethnic diversity. I also like adding into the mix, truly novel cultures that dont really refer to reallife history. But I feel, if using reallife names from ethnic heritages, it self-imposes an obligation to accurately represent this name and doublecheck reallife sensitivities. When modifying a culture, it is easier to modify the name too.) [/QUOTE]
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