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<blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 8127646" data-attributes="member: 8461">Well, as Alphastream's blog notes, there are enough on-the-sly references that you can generally figure out what happens when.Though honestly, I'm still surprised at the idea that anyone balked at the idea of linking Tiamat to the Cult of the Dragon in 5e. As you correctly noted, her wanting to take them over had been referenced for years; the 2E Powers &amp; Pantheons supplement even noted that she made an undead avatar (the &quot;Undying Queen&quot;) specifically to make herself more appealing to the Cult. It was similar to how some people complained about Lathander becoming Amaunator in 4E, despite the fact that the change was heralded by a fairly successful religious heresy from Lathander's church in 3E's Power of Faerun.That said (and I'm on shakier ground here, as I haven't finished the Brimstone Angels series), I don't recall Tiamat being trapped in Hell and needing help to get out in order to invade the mortal world before 5E. That seemed awfully &quot;Takhisis in the Abyss&quot; to me, rather than adhering to Realms lore.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Alzrius, post: 8127646, member: 8461"] Well, as Alphastream's blog notes, there are enough on-the-sly references that you can generally figure out what happens when. Though honestly, I'm still surprised at the idea that anyone balked at the idea of linking Tiamat to the Cult of the Dragon in 5e. As you correctly noted, her wanting to take them over had been referenced for years; the 2E [I]Powers & Pantheons[/I] supplement even noted that she made an undead avatar (the "Undying Queen") specifically to make herself more appealing to the Cult. It was similar to how some people complained about Lathander becoming Amaunator in 4E, despite the fact that the change was heralded by a fairly successful religious heresy from Lathander's church in 3E's [I]Power of Faerun[/I]. That said (and I'm on shakier ground here, as I haven't finished the Brimstone Angels series), I don't recall Tiamat being trapped in Hell and needing help to get out in order to invade the mortal world before 5E. That seemed awfully "Takhisis in the Abyss" to me, rather than adhering to Realms lore. [/QUOTE]

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