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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 6759212" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>Jumping in late to the conversation here, but I seem to recall reading somewhere (forget where, sadly) that the Wall of the Faithless means something different now than it did when Myrkul created it.</p><p></p><p>Myrkul, as an evil god of the dead, created the Wall to give him a punishment he could assign to souls that weren't sufficiently devout -- since the souls weren't particularly devout, no deity would stand against Myrkul to challenge his judgment.</p><p></p><p>However, following the Time of Troubles, Ao the Overgod decreed that the gods would have to enter a covenant with their worshippers -- as the gods derived power from the worship of mortals, so too would the gods need to protect and guide their worshippers to be worthy of that power. As such, the Wall became an active symbol of that covenant -- if a soul was sufficiently devout to provide power to the Faerunian gods, then Kelemvor would assign that soul to an appropriate afterlife.</p><p></p><p>But if the soul is Faithless? A soul that isn't providing power to the gods via worship is a soul that violates the covenant between the gods and their worshippers. That soul isn't going to be rewarded; it's going to be slapped into the Wall of the Faithless, where all the other souls can look and see what the penalty is for failing to support the Covenant of the Overgod.</p><p></p><p>It should be noted that the SCAG adds a nice wrinkle to this -- instead of having devils that raid the Fugue Plane looking for souls to drag away into the Hells, Asmodeus now has devils that canvas the Fugue Plane looking for souls that might worry about being Faithless and offers his patronage, recruiting them directly into the infernal hierarchy. As a bonus, they don't even have to wait to be judged by Kelemvor, but go directly to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 6759212, member: 17607"] Jumping in late to the conversation here, but I seem to recall reading somewhere (forget where, sadly) that the Wall of the Faithless means something different now than it did when Myrkul created it. Myrkul, as an evil god of the dead, created the Wall to give him a punishment he could assign to souls that weren't sufficiently devout -- since the souls weren't particularly devout, no deity would stand against Myrkul to challenge his judgment. However, following the Time of Troubles, Ao the Overgod decreed that the gods would have to enter a covenant with their worshippers -- as the gods derived power from the worship of mortals, so too would the gods need to protect and guide their worshippers to be worthy of that power. As such, the Wall became an active symbol of that covenant -- if a soul was sufficiently devout to provide power to the Faerunian gods, then Kelemvor would assign that soul to an appropriate afterlife. But if the soul is Faithless? A soul that isn't providing power to the gods via worship is a soul that violates the covenant between the gods and their worshippers. That soul isn't going to be rewarded; it's going to be slapped into the Wall of the Faithless, where all the other souls can look and see what the penalty is for failing to support the Covenant of the Overgod. It should be noted that the SCAG adds a nice wrinkle to this -- instead of having devils that raid the Fugue Plane looking for souls to drag away into the Hells, Asmodeus now has devils that canvas the Fugue Plane looking for souls that might worry about being Faithless and offers his patronage, recruiting them directly into the infernal hierarchy. As a bonus, they don't even have to wait to be judged by Kelemvor, but go directly to Hell, do not pass Go, do not collect $200. -- Pauper [/QUOTE]
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