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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6766648" data-attributes="member: 6667193"><p>And yet, in all of the official literature, they can't seem to do so on a scale that allows them to transcend the need for the Fugue Plane and the Wall. You can certainly give them that level of power in a home game, but it doesn't offically exist. Doing so without being prepared to change other aspects of the FR lore is going to be tricky, though. If the gods are truly that powerful, why did they allow Ao to banish them and cause the Time of Troubles? Your difficulty doesn't seem to be with the Wall, but with how the gods have been treated officially in general. Trying to deal with the Wall while not addressing larger concerns about the gods, their power, and their relationship with both their mortal followers and the other gods is likely not going to get you very far; the Wall and the Fugue Plane are but a symptom of a much larger issue people seem to be having with the Realms in general, and have had to some degree since it first supplanted Greyhawk. I don't personally care for the world myself, but it does a well enough job for what it is designed to do; unfortunately for many on this thread, true internal consistency is not one of it's strengths, and never has been. The Wall and the official treatment of the gods is remarkably more consistent than some of the other parts of the world; the problem is that officially they simply are not as powerful as many on this thread want to make them. They argue like petty children, they have the power of cosmic petty children, which is to say, surprisingly little for their status and role; the fact that they are stronger than mortals means little when they don't stack up well against most of their peers throughout the multiverse.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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