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Message: <blockquote data-quote="sunshadow21" data-source="post: 6778343" data-attributes="member: 6667193">If you truly fought evil on any scale, you almost certainly did so with at least some aid from a good god, who can make a case with Kelemvor to allow you to go their realm. Even if you don't fully acknowledge their status as a god, it's still a good place to go to continue the fight evil, and as a valuable ally who lived their ideals, Kelemvor would have plenty of evidence to support sending you there unless you actively fought it. The thing you seem to be overlooking is that it takes a lot of apathy and/or active resistance to end up in the Wall, and in both cases, from the perspective of the sould that ends up there, the Wall probably isn't any worse than any other fate. If you spent your life actively denying the function, and possibly even the power, of the gods on the mortal plane where there is still some room for doubt, are you really going to want to go somewhere where you see that power flaunted directly on a daily basis for eternity and any questioning of that power is going to be heavily frowned upon? Going to a plane of alignment wouldn't be that much better; you're still going to be surrounded by indviduals that have that same level of power you resisted before and more; worse, being physical embodiments of those ideals, they are going to be even less inclined to tolerate any kind of apathy or questioning of authority. At that point, the Wall at least offers eventual oblivion, which none of the other options do. If you are able to resist the call of the gods while living and the temptations of the demons while waiting for judgment, all while refusing to accept any of the good gods even as useful allies to continue the fight against evil with, than chances are when judgment finally does come, the Wall is no worse a fate than having to deal with what you clearly consider to be obnoxious preaching for the rest of eternity. Since you would get that preaching whether you accepted a god or found a loophole to make it to an alignment plane, that isn't much of a solution, and could actually be worse. The god would probably be a lot more willing to accept a bit of apathy and, maybe even some minor dissent on methodology, as long as they got the power of your soul in return. Celestials would be far less likely to accept apathy or debate.I could see your arguments if it was still an evil god as god of death, and the Wall being far more likely to be used as a weapon of spite, but under Kelemvor, who has many good reasons to be neutral about that particular punishment, I just don't see your concerns being particularly relevant. If a soul is truly so resistant to the gods and their role that the Wall is even a remote consideration, than there is a good chance that they aren't going to find the outer planes being any better and the relative amount of pain and suffering promised by the Wall isn't going to bother them all that much. Or, the soul is just so apathetic that the pain and suffering necessary before final oblivion still won't bother them all that much. Any soul that fits your example and actually makes it to Kelemvor's final judgment still resisting the gods is going to be tormented regardless of the judgment; any external torment is going to be dwarved the torment the soul does to itself. The soul is at that point effectively like the dwarves in the last book of the Chronicles of Narnia series, sitting in the middle of paradise still believing themselves to be in a dirty, dinghy stable. No amount of help did anything to aid those dwarves, and no amount of help would aid that soul, so the Wall is almost a blessing for everyone involved, the soul gets eventual peace through oblivion, and no one else has to deal with the constant complaining of that soul for the rest of eternity.</blockquote>

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