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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MG.0" data-source="post: 6778731" data-attributes="member: 6799436">You assume too much. Take the Beastlands (Happy Hunting Grounds) for example. It is a plane of Neutral-Chaotic Good and while it hosts many gods realms, the basic nature of the plane lacks any kind of power structure or hierarchy powered by ritualistic dogma. Beings of matching alignment are left pretty much to their own devices here, which is as it should be on a plane leaning towards chaos over law.Refusing to bow and scrape before a bunch of power leeching petty cretins is not stupidity. Punishing players who wish to play their characters as challengers of the gods is a crappy way to run a campaign. Either you pick a god, or no outer planes for you. I know my players who are in Greyhawk: an eminently better world <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> would be annoyed by the Realms' idiosyncracies (which is one of the reasons we don't play there).Your personal choices have no bearing on anyone elses.  Good luck getting a god to accept you while fundamentally rejecting their divinity: "Um, yeah Tyr, we both know you're just a big fraud but hey, can I work for you?"  You assume a level of pragmatism the gods don't often show. Also, some characters would rather overcome or be destroyed rather than serve. That isn't inherently stupid.Stupidity according to you. I could say it's equally stupid to worship the gods of the Realms, knowing what they do and condone.Overall, I think the extended cosmology of the Realms was handled very badly over the years. For those players who like to stick to canon material (which I think is stupid, but that's just me) it puts an onus on players to accept a level of religion for their characters that they may be uncomfortable with. I wouldn't ask them to do that any more than I would ask them to play a specific gender, or sexual orientation.Making players uncomfortable is bad gaming. Making players feel like there is something wrong with them for feeling uncomfortable about a topic is bad gaming.</blockquote>

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