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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6779288" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Hang on, how am I punishing the player? Note, although I wasn't clear, I was more thinking from the point of view of a fellow player, rather than the DM. If your character is a declared Faithless character, why would my priest heal him or have anything to do with him? (The character that is, not the other player, obviously) You have declared your character is an enemy of faith, that you would do anything in your power to destroy the creations of the gods and you don't believe the gods are worthy of worship. IOW, you have declared your character a heretic.</p><p></p><p>What would possibly motivate my theist character to help you in the slightest way? Why would my character not actually go out of his way to punish you? Why would ANY theist character see you as anything other than a horrid person in need of punishment? From a theist character's perspective, you're an eater of puppies. You're just about as evil as you could possibly be. You not only reject the other character's entire belief system, but, you also claim to want to destroy that belief system as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would the character get a "fair shot"? The character has decided and declared himself to be an enemy of faith. He's trying to destroy people's ways of life and actively working to destroy their belief system. What possible "fair shot" would you give this guy? If he succeeded, he could bring untold chaos on the world - the last time the Wall went away, it did exactly that. Nothing this person is going to do is going to help. This is a character with a bomb strapped to his chest trying to force the rest of the world to bow to his beliefs. Beliefs that are provably WRONG. The gods are not just "powerful wizards" in Forgotten Realms. They aren't. There is no bait and switch here. There is absolutely nothing the indicate that the gods are anything but gods.</p><p></p><p>So, again, why would any theist character aid this character. This character is destined for the worst punishment that the religion can inflict. Being Faithless is the greatest sin <em>in this belief system</em>. Nothing is worse. Even a mass murderer who eats puppies isn't denied an afterlife. Everyone gets an afterlife, of one flavour or another, except those who refuse to accept that the gods are actually gods. Don't have to actively worship them, particularly, just accept that, yup, that glowy person is a god. </p><p></p><p>Tell me again why this character would get a "fair shot".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6779288, member: 22779"] Hang on, how am I punishing the player? Note, although I wasn't clear, I was more thinking from the point of view of a fellow player, rather than the DM. If your character is a declared Faithless character, why would my priest heal him or have anything to do with him? (The character that is, not the other player, obviously) You have declared your character is an enemy of faith, that you would do anything in your power to destroy the creations of the gods and you don't believe the gods are worthy of worship. IOW, you have declared your character a heretic. What would possibly motivate my theist character to help you in the slightest way? Why would my character not actually go out of his way to punish you? Why would ANY theist character see you as anything other than a horrid person in need of punishment? From a theist character's perspective, you're an eater of puppies. You're just about as evil as you could possibly be. You not only reject the other character's entire belief system, but, you also claim to want to destroy that belief system as well. Why would the character get a "fair shot"? The character has decided and declared himself to be an enemy of faith. He's trying to destroy people's ways of life and actively working to destroy their belief system. What possible "fair shot" would you give this guy? If he succeeded, he could bring untold chaos on the world - the last time the Wall went away, it did exactly that. Nothing this person is going to do is going to help. This is a character with a bomb strapped to his chest trying to force the rest of the world to bow to his beliefs. Beliefs that are provably WRONG. The gods are not just "powerful wizards" in Forgotten Realms. They aren't. There is no bait and switch here. There is absolutely nothing the indicate that the gods are anything but gods. So, again, why would any theist character aid this character. This character is destined for the worst punishment that the religion can inflict. Being Faithless is the greatest sin [i]in this belief system[/i]. Nothing is worse. Even a mass murderer who eats puppies isn't denied an afterlife. Everyone gets an afterlife, of one flavour or another, except those who refuse to accept that the gods are actually gods. Don't have to actively worship them, particularly, just accept that, yup, that glowy person is a god. Tell me again why this character would get a "fair shot". [/QUOTE]
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