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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6779393" data-attributes="member: 22779">What difference does it make that gods are kill able?  Real world religions are filled with gods that are killed. Some come back and some don't. Yet, somehow being killed makes them not a god?  Osiris isn't a god?  Baldur isn't a god because he is killed?  I'm sure there are other examples. Why would this make a difference?In a pantheonic faith, worshippers of gods that you may not agree with are still members of your faith. That's a far cry from heretics that completely deny your faith. Funny thing about DND. In settings with no gods, everyone of consequence is evil. The basic message of DND is that those who lack faith are evil. Dark Sun, Ravenloft, even Dragonlance. The Kingpriest of Istar got a large can of Old Testament whoopass dropped on him because he was using his position to begin a pogrom to kill anyone who used non-divine magic. Elves, dwarves, wizards, everyone. The gods walked away because the followers of the gods had so abused their powers and only retuned when Takhisis broke the agreement to leave Krynn alone. So again, why would a cleric repeatedly aid someone who claims to want to destroy the very things that the cleric believes in?  And, no matter what, refuses to change that stance.</blockquote>