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<blockquote data-quote="Phantarch" data-source="post: 6779742" data-attributes="member: 6801685"><p>I think this touches on the crux of the situation. I would add to that and say that godhood entails NECESSARY control over these parts of the world. I think some people view the fantasy world of the forgotten realms as functionally the same as our world: the natural world carries on governed by laws of physics and such, and the gods just happen to be powerful creatures that can influence it.</p><p></p><p>I don't think this is correct, though, in a world like the forgotten realms. I think the gods ARE the natural laws. In real world terms, it would be like having a personified god of gravity. If that god ceased to exist, GRAVITY would cease to exist. Everything would come apart, and everybody would float away. The only way to keep gravity is to ensure that the god of gravity continues to exist, and the only way to ensure that the god of gravity continues to exist is to worship it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not a Realms scholar by any stretch of the imagination, but I would say that there is precedent for this in the Forgotten Realms, as well. When the goddess of magic died, magic went haywire and stopped for a short time before she was reincarnated. This wasn't just a god blocking access, it was the death of a god causing a fundamental aspect of nature to be removed until such a god came into being again.</p><p></p><p>To be Faithless in the Forgotten Realms is an affront to all nature. To deny the gods worship is akin to saying that you want to destroy the world. An "atheist" in such a setting is akin to joining a crazy cult that seeks to destroy all of existence. These are the type of people who end up in the Wall.</p><p></p><p>Additionally, an atheist in the Forgotten Realms holds the same place of ignorance as those in the real world who have denied all the knowledge of science. An atheist in the forgotten realms is the equivalent of a person in the real world who believes in a 6,000 year old earth that is the center of the universe. In short, it's a VERY different paradigm.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phantarch, post: 6779742, member: 6801685"] I think this touches on the crux of the situation. I would add to that and say that godhood entails NECESSARY control over these parts of the world. I think some people view the fantasy world of the forgotten realms as functionally the same as our world: the natural world carries on governed by laws of physics and such, and the gods just happen to be powerful creatures that can influence it. I don't think this is correct, though, in a world like the forgotten realms. I think the gods ARE the natural laws. In real world terms, it would be like having a personified god of gravity. If that god ceased to exist, GRAVITY would cease to exist. Everything would come apart, and everybody would float away. The only way to keep gravity is to ensure that the god of gravity continues to exist, and the only way to ensure that the god of gravity continues to exist is to worship it. I'm not a Realms scholar by any stretch of the imagination, but I would say that there is precedent for this in the Forgotten Realms, as well. When the goddess of magic died, magic went haywire and stopped for a short time before she was reincarnated. This wasn't just a god blocking access, it was the death of a god causing a fundamental aspect of nature to be removed until such a god came into being again. To be Faithless in the Forgotten Realms is an affront to all nature. To deny the gods worship is akin to saying that you want to destroy the world. An "atheist" in such a setting is akin to joining a crazy cult that seeks to destroy all of existence. These are the type of people who end up in the Wall. Additionally, an atheist in the Forgotten Realms holds the same place of ignorance as those in the real world who have denied all the knowledge of science. An atheist in the forgotten realms is the equivalent of a person in the real world who believes in a 6,000 year old earth that is the center of the universe. In short, it's a VERY different paradigm. [/QUOTE]
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