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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hawkeyefan" data-source="post: 6779777" data-attributes="member: 6785785">[MENTION=6801685]Phantarch[/MENTION] But when we say "Atheist" in the terms of the Realms, are we talking about someone who denies the existence of the gods, or simply someone who denies them worship? As it pertains to the Wall, I think if there was a person who chose not to worship the gods, but was otherwise good in every other way...defended the helpless, fought against evil and tyranny, actively strove to make the world a better place...and a good deity allowed that person to suffer for eternity in the Wall of the Faithless, then I would say that deity has justified that person's stance that the gods are not worthy of worship.And I do believe that the gods exert influence on their specific domains or portfolios, but those things don't cease to be when a god dies or is otherwise rendered inactive. Mystra died and Magic went haywire yes....that's one example. But Bane was killed, and tyranny didn't vanish from the world. When Torm died, paladin's didn't all go with him. In Bane's case, his portfolio was taken over by the mortal Cyric. Torm was shortly restored by Ao.There is enough anecdotal evidence from the stories to support the view that the gods are not supremely powerful and deserving of worship as creators of the world and mortal kind. Certainly Kelemvor has influence over the souls of the dead, and he can exert that influence in a number of ways. Does that mean he created mortal life? Or the world? No...until a 150 years ago in FR time he was just a fighter.</blockquote>

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