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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6787630" data-attributes="member: 2067">First, some relevant bits I discovered over my break.1 - Erin M. Evans has written a lot about dragonborn in her books. She probably knows Faerunian DB better than anyone. She answered a question from a fan about DB and the Wall of the Faithless acknowledging that nothing is canonical on it, but laying out <a href="http://slushlush.com/2015/05/on-playing-a-dragonborn-in-forgotten-realms-part-2/" target="_blank">a few possibilities</a>:[sblock]Do Abeiran souls go to the same afterlife as Torilian souls?(if) YES. Is their lack of worship still relevant?<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">YES. The Wall of the Faithless is full of Abeirans and this is what the Vayemniri expect from their afterlife.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NO. The gods are scooping up deserving Abeirans from the Fugue Plane, and since they clearly haven’t signaled the rules have changed, they continue to scoop Vayemniri and the Vayemniri continue to live their lives to the best of their abilities, without giving the gods much thought.</li> </ul>(if) NO. Is there an Abeiran afterlife? <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">YES. Then the Vayemniri may well go to a kind of limbo state, like a god-less upper plane. A god could step in and claim them, but it would be a hard sell.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">NO. Then the Vayemniri’s souls may be obliterated.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">WELL…SORT OF. The Vayemniri’s souls persist as ghosts that stick around their bodies. Maybe your ancestors literally influence you this way.</li> </ul>[/sblock]2 - A brief twitter convo with Mike Mearls suggesting that the Good gods are maybe a little mixed about the Wall - it encourages their worship, but they also see the problem with worship out of fear. This implies that a storyline like my proposed one, with the Gods of Good in FR allying with the Fantasy Atheists who want to bring down the Wall, would make a certain amount of sense. The idea of worshiping someone out of fear of reprisal is fundamentally incompatible with the idea of respecting their autonomy as individuals, and respecting individual autonomy is part of what defines Good in D&D - it is not Good to force people to worship you. It is not Good to obliterate people who disagree with you. It is not Good to extract what you want by threats. Part of what gives duty its Goodness in D&D is that it's something that people choose freely to do. Honor is Good in Torm's eyes because it is something that you choose freely to act according to. A duty you did not choose or an honor you are forced to accept are not Good. Moreso, gods of justice, of compassion, of mercy, of kindness, of healing, of freedom, of independence...all these gods would have cause to hate the Wall and what it stands for.If you were only "good" because you HAD to be good, or else, then you weren't really Good. You didn't choose freely to help people because you wanted to help people, you chose to help people because of your own selfish desire to avoid punishment. That seems to matter in D&D in general, and in FR specifically. That's not the case - FR is part of the broader D&D multiverse. You can't ignore that and pretend it doesn't matter if you're working with the setting as it is written. There's even FR locals who take other options, actively, canonically. Faction War. Plus most of the history of Sigil. For a suitably game DM, that's absolutely on the table. They did in the fiction, which is why Kalak is dead in 4e, and our own DS game continued the job and reversed the job (but we weren't too concerned with being Good). Canonically, they do. Their power is limited. Because they're Powerful Wizards, not transcendental immortal beings.</blockquote>

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