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<blockquote data-quote="Kaptain_Kantrip" data-source="post: 261518" data-attributes="member: 546">Lords of Darkness is a good book if you run FR, and if you assume that many of the organizations described aren't ridiculous and unusable in a believable context. I bought Lords of Darkness solely for the crunch: maps, rituals, spells, feats, etc. Aside from the Red Wizards, Cyricists and Banites, the rest of the book was for me at least, pretty much a complete waste of space, time and money. There was simply not enough crunch in the book--there was too much cream devoted to utterly dumb lameness: Cult of the Dragon, Shades, Malaugrym, Beholders, and other high-powered, stupid organizations. There were like only three feats! That sucked, even though Phalanx Fighting was a great one. Some of the spells were @#$% reprints. The magic item and drugs sections were too short. Lords of Darkness was okay, but would have been much better with less crap and more crunch. Magic of Faerun was a great book--hardly any FR cream crap in it if you ignore the first part of the book with boomshrooms, mage duels and other retardedness. Lots of crunchy spells and goodies.I would never, ever buy the Silver Marches. No interest. None. Zero. Zippo. I hope it does fail, so that we get more crunch and less cream in future products. WoTC's idea of &quot;cream&quot; and mine are so radically different that they could probably never produce an intelligent, believable and mature setting I would use. They are pretty good with rules and other crunchy bits, however, so those are the products I buy. More crunch, less crap, please! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kaptain_Kantrip, post: 261518, member: 546"] Lords of Darkness is a good book if you run FR, and if you assume that many of the organizations described aren't ridiculous and unusable in a believable context. I bought Lords of Darkness solely for the crunch: maps, rituals, spells, feats, etc. Aside from the Red Wizards, Cyricists and Banites, the rest of the book was for me at least, pretty much a complete waste of space, time and money. There was simply not enough crunch in the book--there was too much cream devoted to utterly dumb lameness: Cult of the Dragon, Shades, Malaugrym, Beholders, and other high-powered, stupid organizations. There were like only three feats! That sucked, even though Phalanx Fighting was a great one. Some of the spells were @#$% reprints. The magic item and drugs sections were too short. Lords of Darkness was okay, but would have been much better with less crap and more crunch. Magic of Faerun was a great book--hardly any FR cream crap in it if you ignore the first part of the book with boomshrooms, mage duels and other retardedness. Lots of crunchy spells and goodies. I would never, ever buy the Silver Marches. No interest. None. Zero. Zippo. I hope it does fail, so that we get more crunch and less cream in future products. WoTC's idea of "cream" and mine are so radically different that they could probably never produce an intelligent, believable and mature setting I would use. They are pretty good with rules and other crunchy bits, however, so those are the products I buy. More crunch, less crap, please! :D [/QUOTE]

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