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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tallow" data-source="post: 261776" data-attributes="member: 4962">To SKR and AVSean and Anthony:I appreciate both sides of your argument.  This is where I stand.1) I didn't by Lords of Darkness because I thought it was just a book on NPC's and such.  I also don't have a current campaign that I'm running in the Forgotten Realms, and in my mind it was a DM book.  In the event that I run a Forgottem Realms campaign again, I will probably buy it.  Basically, the marketing (perhaps title?) of the book was misleading.  If it has spells and PrC's and such and I had known this, I probably would have bought it already.  I often buy my books in my mind before they are on the shelves, that way I don't read the back cover, or preview the content before purchase.2) The d20 Liscense/OGL/OGC/SRD or whatever you wanna call it was marketing genius.  You probably have sold more core rule books because of this.  That being said, don't you think this is exactly why your Donut Cores have sold better than your Forgotten Rum?  For every OTHER setting out there that requires your Donut Core books, you probably will lose a Forgotten Rum sale.  I know that I only have a limited amount of money to spend on roleplaying material.  If I find one or two other settings that catch my fancy, AND I'm running a game or playing a game in that setting, I will probably buy those books instead of the FR books I don't need at the moment.  Most gamers I know have limited budgets as well.3) Sean, I understand your frustration and irritation on this matter, but it is hardly professional to express your vitriol in such a public manner.  Unfortunately the nature of our country, capitalism, and big business, means that the artist WILL suffer some.  That being said, when I have run FR campaigns in the past, I have really LOVED the creamy stuff and bought most, if not all of it.  You would probably be fairly impressed at my collection of FR stuff from the original AD&D and 2nd Edition.4) Anthony, I understand the business aspect of this.  But... a bean counter has GOT to know that campaign specific stuff is going to suffer because of the d20 liscense deal while the core stuff is going to profit off of it.  It is NOT fair to FR developers and fans alike to hold both to the same standard.  The margin, perhaps, needs to be lowered a bit for FR stuff, because you KNOW it won't sell as well, BECAUSE you've created a dynamic that WILL sell core stuff better.  The OGL was pure marketing genius in my mind.  Assuming that people will buy FR because of name recognition (FR or WotC) and that you can hold FR to the same standard you hold DC is a delusion at best.  I personally, probably won't buy too many more FR books because I don't run in FR AND it seems to simply be a rehash of all the old stuff.  How many copies of Waterdeep or the Dalelands or Cormyr do I really need?  I have the old FR# and FRE# series from the original AD&D and I bought many of the 2nd edition versions of the same thing and I bought the remake they did in the 90's.  So in some cases, I own 3 or 4 copies of revised material for the Dalelands and Cormyr.  Will I buy a 3E FRCS version of the Dalelands just to get some Dalelands specific spells and PrC's?  Hell no!  FR has pretty much exhausted any uniqueness it can present except to just convert all the stuff I already have to 3E, which isn't too difficult for me to do on my own.  That being said, Silver Marches and the Spider Queen books are good ideas because they do detail new stories and new developments in areas that have drastically changed.  The vision of Alustriel has advanced in Silver Marches. Well that's my 2 cents.Andy Christian</blockquote>

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