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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffB" data-source="post: 262187" data-attributes="member: 518">See this is where the problem lies...I as a DM could care less about a book like this. PRClasses are way overdone as is. Most players will never need more than 1 maybe 2 for a PC. And DM's probably don't need more than a handful or two..in a fairly long running campaign...There are already tons of PrClass books...and nto to mention several dozen in all the FR products to date. A Book of Races that is full of just stat/feats/PrClasses is no different than the core splatbooks...just FR names tacked on instead of GH ones tacked onHowever, I won't begrudge anyone who DOES want that type of book....But... if there was cool non-rules info on the races, their organizations (with appropriate Prclasses if need be), etc.  That kind of product satisfies both camps and proves useful to everyone..not entirely useful..but more useful over a broad range of customers... which is precisely what WOTC has been doing with the FR line up till TSM, then I'll be happy to buy the stuff...I'm not saying I hate crunch..I just don't want a whole damn book full of it...D20 is already oversaturated with crunchbooks and little fluff (comparitively)...How many campaign supplements ahve we seen comapred to race/monster stat/class/feat/skill/Prclass books so far? Yep there are some campaign settings, but not nearly like the amount of crunch books..The fact is that while lots of people like crunch, and lots of people like cream..in a campaign setting supplement tied to a particular world..you have to have both...The core books and GH are a clearcut example of failure..not saleswise for the crunch lovers...but A)how many of the people who bought them for crunch actually use the material in a GH campaign?andB) How many who love GH cream think that the splats are great GH books?  Very little from both camps....And if the cream is taken out of the FR books, the same thing will happen...and sales will plummet...why buy a $30 pretty crunch book, when you can get the same amount of useful material in a $20 B&W one? Ahh well..it's just a game...It doesn't really matter...but it makes me sad that 3E has already run it's course (and it has...D20 is another matter), and WOTC will finally  live up to  the  "Wizards of the Cash"...moniker..as we start to see epic-level splatbooks, and the catalogs fill with re-hash...</blockquote>

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