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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 4971963" data-attributes="member: 4937">I didn't say that.I didn't say that either.Try again.After completely misquoting me, you do however get into where the heart of the argument really resides.&nbsp; If there is 'no 100% completely right answer' to when you roll for initiative, you then have to accept that it is at least possible that a fight would start with no one flat footed, correct?&nbsp; In my opinion, getting an alert BBEG to monologue to the extent that he is flatfooted when the players interrupt him would require a bluff check opposed by the BBEG's sense motive.&nbsp; As a character flaw, I can see you having a BBEG who is particularly easy to get monologuing and who thus has a penalty on a sense motive check, but I can't really see ruling that anyone - BBEG or PC - is always flatfooted in the middle of an encounter nor can I imagine myself denying a request by a PC at the beginning of an encounter to 'roll initiative' so that he can't (easily) be caught flat-footed later on and then objecting to the player not doing anything that constitutes an attack on his proceeding turns or even for the entire duration of the encounter.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 4971963, member: 4937"] I didn't say that. I didn't say that either. Try again. After completely misquoting me, you do however get into where the heart of the argument really resides. If there is 'no 100% completely right answer' to when you roll for initiative, you then have to accept that it is at least possible that a fight would start with no one flat footed, correct? In my opinion, getting an alert BBEG to monologue to the extent that he is flatfooted when the players interrupt him would require a bluff check opposed by the BBEG's sense motive. As a character flaw, I can see you having a BBEG who is particularly easy to get monologuing and who thus has a penalty on a sense motive check, but I can't really see ruling that anyone - BBEG or PC - is always flatfooted in the middle of an encounter nor can I imagine myself denying a request by a PC at the beginning of an encounter to 'roll initiative' so that he can't (easily) be caught flat-footed later on and then objecting to the player not doing anything that constitutes an attack on his proceeding turns or even for the entire duration of the encounter. [/QUOTE]

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