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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5314375" data-attributes="member: 22779">Didn't want to threadjack <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/293662-looking-buy-my-1st-campaign-setting-advice.html" target="_blank">Buddhafrog's thread</a> so I thought I'd bring this over here.The bolded part is what I wanted to talk about.&nbsp; This is an opinion that I see brought up fairly often.&nbsp; The point basically boils down to &quot;Greyhawk is a less magic heavy setting than Forgotten Realms&quot;.&nbsp; I really wonder where this comes from.&nbsp; I know that I'm not a huge Greyhawk lore guru, but, I've read a fair bit, and, it looks to me, that Greyhawk is every bit as high magic as FR.&nbsp; I mean, in Greyhawk, you have wizards becoming gods by imprisoning demon lords, ultra-powerful wizards running the largest city in the land, countries run by undead, a country run by a god and so on.Never minding the truly funky Greyhawk stuff like nations being wiped out by the magical version of nuclear MAD, or crashed spaceships, or various other pretty wahoo elements.Is it possibly just because there is so much more FR material out there?&nbsp; People can see so many examples of high magic in Forgotten Realms simply because there's thousands and thousands of pages of material, while Greyhawk is much less covered?Why is there this perception that FR is uber-high magic and Greyhawk is low magic?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 5314375, member: 22779"] Didn't want to threadjack [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/293662-looking-buy-my-1st-campaign-setting-advice.html]Buddhafrog's thread[/url] so I thought I'd bring this over here. The bolded part is what I wanted to talk about. This is an opinion that I see brought up fairly often. The point basically boils down to "Greyhawk is a less magic heavy setting than Forgotten Realms". I really wonder where this comes from. I know that I'm not a huge Greyhawk lore guru, but, I've read a fair bit, and, it looks to me, that Greyhawk is every bit as high magic as FR. I mean, in Greyhawk, you have wizards becoming gods by imprisoning demon lords, ultra-powerful wizards running the largest city in the land, countries run by undead, a country run by a god and so on. Never minding the truly funky Greyhawk stuff like nations being wiped out by the magical version of nuclear MAD, or crashed spaceships, or various other pretty wahoo elements. Is it possibly just because there is so much more FR material out there? People can see so many examples of high magic in Forgotten Realms simply because there's thousands and thousands of pages of material, while Greyhawk is much less covered? Why is there this perception that FR is uber-high magic and Greyhawk is low magic? [/QUOTE]

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