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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5221837" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>It kiiiiiiiiiinda weirds me out to see how many people's idea of morality is influenced by the exchange of little green pieces of paper.</p><p></p><p>No one died? No one was injured? No one was put under severe emotional duress for purely selfish motives? People were made happy? Life became easier? It didn't break (given religion)'s (given commandment)s? It enabled <em>treat thy neighbor as thyself</em>?</p><p></p><p>Legality is a different ball of wax entirely. But morality? No, I really don't think that's tied up in an economic transaction in the slightest. I have no <strong>moral</strong> responsibility to permit or encourage a given business or economic model. </p><p></p><p>In fact, according to several big deal world religions, business is rather inherently evil to begin with, concerned as it is with the root of all evil. There's circles of Hell for those with suits and ties, and for and bean-counters, and for both the greedy and the wasteful. Camels don't frequently pass through the eyes of needles, and prophets were known to hang out with bupkiss in the desert pretty much all the time, and to say that we should all live like that.</p><p></p><p>I grok the whole <em>Protestant Ethic</em> idea (I'm a student of religion and culture, after all -- and if you don't quite grok it, it's a really enlightening read), but I can't bring myself to consider anything I give to my bank and wrest from the iron grip of my employers as anything having to do in even the littlest bit with whether I am a Good Person or a Bad Person.</p><p></p><p>So, no, I don't think it's my moral responsibility, or anyone else's, to pay. Indeed, if it would alleviate suffering or cause joy, I think it would be my moral responsibility to <strong>give</strong>, as much as humanly possible. </p><p></p><p>But, being a student of culture and religion, with an eye toward economics, it's really fascinating to see how deeply the idea that the difference between <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" /> and <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /> is $ has become. </p><p></p><p>Though I can't help but think certain moral figures would go all <em>moneylenders in the temple</em> on it.</p><p></p><p>But a lot of this is beyond the scope of ENWorld.</p><p></p><p>How it relates to WotC, piracy, and the DDI? No, I really don't think it is immoral to engage in piracy, or to share a DDI account. And I think it's really sad when people confuse legality with morality.</p><p></p><p>And, just in case the thread exceeds its scope...IB4TL. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5221837, member: 2067"] It kiiiiiiiiiinda weirds me out to see how many people's idea of morality is influenced by the exchange of little green pieces of paper. No one died? No one was injured? No one was put under severe emotional duress for purely selfish motives? People were made happy? Life became easier? It didn't break (given religion)'s (given commandment)s? It enabled [I]treat thy neighbor as thyself[/I]? Legality is a different ball of wax entirely. But morality? No, I really don't think that's tied up in an economic transaction in the slightest. I have no [B]moral[/B] responsibility to permit or encourage a given business or economic model. In fact, according to several big deal world religions, business is rather inherently evil to begin with, concerned as it is with the root of all evil. There's circles of Hell for those with suits and ties, and for and bean-counters, and for both the greedy and the wasteful. Camels don't frequently pass through the eyes of needles, and prophets were known to hang out with bupkiss in the desert pretty much all the time, and to say that we should all live like that. I grok the whole [I]Protestant Ethic[/I] idea (I'm a student of religion and culture, after all -- and if you don't quite grok it, it's a really enlightening read), but I can't bring myself to consider anything I give to my bank and wrest from the iron grip of my employers as anything having to do in even the littlest bit with whether I am a Good Person or a Bad Person. So, no, I don't think it's my moral responsibility, or anyone else's, to pay. Indeed, if it would alleviate suffering or cause joy, I think it would be my moral responsibility to [B]give[/B], as much as humanly possible. But, being a student of culture and religion, with an eye toward economics, it's really fascinating to see how deeply the idea that the difference between :angel: and :devil: is $ has become. Though I can't help but think certain moral figures would go all [I]moneylenders in the temple[/I] on it. But a lot of this is beyond the scope of ENWorld. How it relates to WotC, piracy, and the DDI? No, I really don't think it is immoral to engage in piracy, or to share a DDI account. And I think it's really sad when people confuse legality with morality. And, just in case the thread exceeds its scope...IB4TL. ;) [/QUOTE]
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