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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 6315033" data-attributes="member: 6696971">That would do the trick to invest them with the required desperation, to be sure.&nbsp; I had heard that 4e did a great job with that setting.&nbsp; That sounds like pretty good stuff.You guys' take is certainly more than fair.&nbsp; I think I get my take on them from from a few different sources:1)&nbsp; I associate them with the past edition &quot;Int Elves&quot;; cloistered away from the world in their hidden magical vales, detached from the world, content to study high magic and the secret mysteries and histories, and master sword and spell in defense of their ancient redoubts.&nbsp; The &quot;Retreat Elves&quot;.2)&nbsp; Elrond's disposition, the LotR elves and Rivendell.3)&nbsp; Their pictures provoke me toward that otherworldly, vulcan nature.4)&nbsp; Finally, the PH and Essentials stuff (and probably some stuff from HotF) such as:and&nbsp;and The aesthetic, long view, contemplative/deliberative, detached, otherworldly, graceful, magical, patient, perceptive, trance stuff and the Arcana &amp; History bonuses, borderline xenophobic, and the warrior monk sort of nature drives my perception of them as being &quot;Vulcanish&quot; versus the more relaxed and &quot;frolic under the boughs of the ancient trees elves&quot;.&nbsp; Of course, there is the caveat that some of the young Eladrin do the standard counterculture thing, rebelling against the establishment so there is room for different versions of individual Eladrin PCs.&nbsp; I'm just talking about establishment stuff and the general bent of a culture.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 6315033, member: 6696971"] That would do the trick to invest them with the required desperation, to be sure. I had heard that 4e did a great job with that setting. That sounds like pretty good stuff. You guys' take is certainly more than fair. I think I get my take on them from from a few different sources: 1) I associate them with the past edition "Int Elves"; cloistered away from the world in their hidden magical vales, detached from the world, content to study high magic and the secret mysteries and histories, and master sword and spell in defense of their ancient redoubts. The "Retreat Elves". 2) Elrond's disposition, the LotR elves and Rivendell. 3) Their pictures provoke me toward that otherworldly, vulcan nature. 4) Finally, the PH and Essentials stuff (and probably some stuff from HotF) such as: and and The aesthetic, long view, contemplative/deliberative, detached, otherworldly, graceful, magical, patient, perceptive, trance stuff and the Arcana & History bonuses, borderline xenophobic, and the warrior monk sort of nature drives my perception of them as being "Vulcanish" versus the more relaxed and "frolic under the boughs of the ancient trees elves". Of course, there is the caveat that some of the young Eladrin do the standard counterculture thing, rebelling against the establishment so there is room for different versions of individual Eladrin PCs. I'm just talking about establishment stuff and the general bent of a culture. [/QUOTE]

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