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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6315380" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Sure. But on a warm summer's night...or during the day....and curtains are known for having rips and tears and gaps...and most aren't flush with the window, so maybe you can teleport into the space between the window and the curtain?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which is why there can't be One True Answer to this. It's fine to have eladrin drastically change the world, it's fine to not. It's fair to have an issue with it, it's also fair to have no issue with it. There's no incorrect reading of the rules either way, it's just a different interpretation. Which means that the point in the OP is valid, at least for that person. </p><p></p><p>Which is ultimately my point. Just because someone has an issue with eladrin teleportation doesn't mean they're an Edition Warrior with a hate-on for 4e. I mean they might be that <em>anyway</em>, but one's response to blink elves and their blinking doesn't really inform that one way or the other. I'm fond of the things as an archetype and as a character type, myself (even though they run screaming headlong into like seven of the annoyances I do have with 4e), and I've got no problems with the bamf but also no real love for it, and it's fair for others to imagine differently.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Isn't that the idea behind exception-based design? "It's like X, unless the rules specify an exception." 4e doesn't have rules for toddlers, so there is not a toddler exception, so RAW, toddladrin can teleport, yeah? Heck, <em>newborn</em> eladrin might be able to teleport. Which must make cutting the umbilical cord a cautious process (unless that counts as being grappled? maybe newborn eladrin need to teleport in order to stop being grappled by their umbilical cords? hehehe). </p><p></p><p>But that's just really just for whackiness. Worldbuilding shenanigans. From a practical standpoint, a DM will make up their own rules, which means there's no One True Answer, which means it's fair to go either way, which means, yeah, it's a possible ramification of unlimited teleportation, which is my mantra here. It's not bad faith, it's just not maybe the way everyone would play things. It's fine to take issue with unlimited teleportation. It's fine not to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6315380, member: 2067"] Sure. But on a warm summer's night...or during the day....and curtains are known for having rips and tears and gaps...and most aren't flush with the window, so maybe you can teleport into the space between the window and the curtain? Which is why there can't be One True Answer to this. It's fine to have eladrin drastically change the world, it's fine to not. It's fair to have an issue with it, it's also fair to have no issue with it. There's no incorrect reading of the rules either way, it's just a different interpretation. Which means that the point in the OP is valid, at least for that person. Which is ultimately my point. Just because someone has an issue with eladrin teleportation doesn't mean they're an Edition Warrior with a hate-on for 4e. I mean they might be that [I]anyway[/I], but one's response to blink elves and their blinking doesn't really inform that one way or the other. I'm fond of the things as an archetype and as a character type, myself (even though they run screaming headlong into like seven of the annoyances I do have with 4e), and I've got no problems with the bamf but also no real love for it, and it's fair for others to imagine differently. Isn't that the idea behind exception-based design? "It's like X, unless the rules specify an exception." 4e doesn't have rules for toddlers, so there is not a toddler exception, so RAW, toddladrin can teleport, yeah? Heck, [I]newborn[/I] eladrin might be able to teleport. Which must make cutting the umbilical cord a cautious process (unless that counts as being grappled? maybe newborn eladrin need to teleport in order to stop being grappled by their umbilical cords? hehehe). But that's just really just for whackiness. Worldbuilding shenanigans. From a practical standpoint, a DM will make up their own rules, which means there's no One True Answer, which means it's fair to go either way, which means, yeah, it's a possible ramification of unlimited teleportation, which is my mantra here. It's not bad faith, it's just not maybe the way everyone would play things. It's fine to take issue with unlimited teleportation. It's fine not to. [/QUOTE]
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