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Message: <blockquote data-quote="77IM" data-source="post: 7139861" data-attributes="member: 12377">Another solution to this dilemma, which I've found to work well with most groups: DM: Everybody make a Wisdom (Insight) check, DC 10. One or two players: I succeed! DM: Then you know that your plan won't work, because <reasons>. That one player, you know who I mean: But, but, but, what about <other reasons>? DM: Still no. You'd have much better success doing <fun option A> or <fun option B> instead of your current plan, which is doomed to long, drawn-out failure. Some other player: Oh, let's do <fun option B>! That sounds totally like a thing we would do! It works because you're letting the PCs figure out their plan is bogus instead of just telling them at a meta-game level. This is SUPER IMPORTANT, because it lets the players feel like their PCs have accomplished something in gaining this knowledge. It works best if you butter the players up a little bit: "Your expertise as a soldier tells you that your plan won't work; the enemy would be insane to actually fall for it."Then you give the players at least 2 other options, so that they still feel like they have agency. Get them choosing between fun courses of action. Boring courses of action are off the table.</blockquote>