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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tombowings" data-source="post: 4440662" data-attributes="member: 56324">Well, 4th Edition was intended to get rid of a lot of the simulationism presented in previous editions. I don't see this as a problem, because the whole point was to sack the simulationism and get on with the game. However, this may not be your cup of tea. So instead of trying to search the system for something that isn't there, why not try one of these ideas:1) Accept that simulationism was scraped for a more gamist approach. The developers knew that some people would be looking for something else and they did it there way regardless. So why not have fun with the system that they did make. Eh?2) Write a economic system mechanics that better suit your taste.3) Go back to playing another edition of D&D or a different game entirely. There's nothing wrong with that.4) Stop playing RPGs. I urge you not to go this route, but it's always an option.All of these ideas will help you increase your overall PRG enjoyment. Don't be afraid to decide that a certain system isn't to your taste and grab something else. Hero may be more what you're looking for.So please, lets all stop trying to poke wholes in each others games and do something constructive to either fix the wholes that you see or find a different system to fulfill your needs.</blockquote>