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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 4675791" data-attributes="member: 82106">Exactly. It would be like maybe equivalent of a Zombie Rotter, which AFAIK is THE weakest official monster in the game. Maybe that would be OK at 1st level, but you would certainly never be able to summon anything interesting at ANY level. And at the higher levels monsters have auras and AoEs that will make just as short work of 'minion class' summonings as wizard make now of actual minions at those levels with THEIR AoEs. So it REALLY would not be all that interesting. Of course there could be different classes of summonings as well, so possibly both ways can work, but to me it doesn't seem all that weird that a wizard has to concentrate on his elemental or whatever to make it act. It really ISN'T a free willed monster, it is a summoning. If you don't use your magic to MAKE it do something, it just doesn't do anything. I got no problem with that.If you REALLY do want to have monsters that you can 'summon' and are free willed then there are rituals for that kind of thing, but then you're dealing with creatures that would probably like to just plain eat you or have to be paid (and the kind of pay they want isn't likely to be anything a PC wants to pay).</blockquote>