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<blockquote data-quote="Oqlanth" data-source="post: 4804866" data-attributes="member: 83903"><p><strong>Old Al-Qadim Fan</strong></p><p></p><p>Hello,</p><p>I noticed this forum threat from google search. And I read it -not completely but I will- and noticed you mentioned about old Al-Qadim fans. </p><p> </p><p>You are right, most of the Al-Qadim fans I know don't like -some deeply hates- 4th E. and most of them seems to be not active on internet -at least about Al-Qadim subjects-. You may notice offical Al-Qadim fan site al-qadim.com does not active for more than two years.</p><p> </p><p>I agree with most of ideas about 4th E. with other 'old Al-Qadim fans' but I am also interested with converting it to 4th E. Because it seems to be only way to make Al-Qadim known to younger/new RPers.</p><p> </p><p>Well...About converting. I noticed this 'spellpleague thing and Zakhara' discussion;</p><p> </p><p>Al-Qadim published at 92 after Times of Troubles. And there is no 'Death or Wild Magic Zones' in Zakhara! Zakharan magic -at least wizardly magic- has no connection with Mystra or Fearun.</p><p> </p><p>Jeff Grub -who is also creator of old Manual of Planes- desined Zakharan Magic based on Elemental concept -you may also can see oldest verision of Al-Qadim spells from Anarouch accesory of FR which is also created by Jeff Grub. It seems to be first tryout of 'Arabian Magic'-. </p><p> </p><p>Zakhara has much more direct connection to inner planes than any other setting -this is why genies can have easy access to Zakhara-. You may notice from Tome of Magic and Player's Option:Spells&Magic elemantal magic called as 'schools of effect' unlike traditional magic schools which are called 'Spells of Philosphy'. You may also notice in elemantal concept of planes inner planes are planes of effect while outer planes are planes of philosopy.</p><p> </p><p>They probably take this idea (magical concept of al-qadim) from Alchemy of medieval near east/arabia; every matter from produced from fire, water, earth, air and aether (which is also called universal).</p><p> </p><p>Even unique spell casters of Zakhara like Ghul Lords (they are necromancer) has their contacts from negative energy plane (another inner plane).</p><p> </p><p>This is why any ajami spell casters can't use Zakharan scrolls or spellbook.And same thing also applied to them too. They are totaly based on different ways.</p><p> </p><p>Well it is early morning here in Turkey and I did not sleep for whole night and I have to write some stuff about madrasas for tomorrow so I have to leave now. But I will return tomorrow adn I also will read all posts on this subject.And of course will come with ideas <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p> </p><p>If you wish to contact me or ask anything you may do this from here or e-mail/msn.</p><p> </p><p>e-mail/msn: <a href="mailto:oqlanth@hotmail.com">oqlanth@hotmail.com</a></p><p> </p><p>Well see you tomorrow</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oqlanth, post: 4804866, member: 83903"] [b]Old Al-Qadim Fan[/b] Hello, I noticed this forum threat from google search. And I read it -not completely but I will- and noticed you mentioned about old Al-Qadim fans. You are right, most of the Al-Qadim fans I know don't like -some deeply hates- 4th E. and most of them seems to be not active on internet -at least about Al-Qadim subjects-. You may notice offical Al-Qadim fan site al-qadim.com does not active for more than two years. I agree with most of ideas about 4th E. with other 'old Al-Qadim fans' but I am also interested with converting it to 4th E. Because it seems to be only way to make Al-Qadim known to younger/new RPers. Well...About converting. I noticed this 'spellpleague thing and Zakhara' discussion; Al-Qadim published at 92 after Times of Troubles. And there is no 'Death or Wild Magic Zones' in Zakhara! Zakharan magic -at least wizardly magic- has no connection with Mystra or Fearun. Jeff Grub -who is also creator of old Manual of Planes- desined Zakharan Magic based on Elemental concept -you may also can see oldest verision of Al-Qadim spells from Anarouch accesory of FR which is also created by Jeff Grub. It seems to be first tryout of 'Arabian Magic'-. Zakhara has much more direct connection to inner planes than any other setting -this is why genies can have easy access to Zakhara-. You may notice from Tome of Magic and Player's Option:Spells&Magic elemantal magic called as 'schools of effect' unlike traditional magic schools which are called 'Spells of Philosphy'. You may also notice in elemantal concept of planes inner planes are planes of effect while outer planes are planes of philosopy. They probably take this idea (magical concept of al-qadim) from Alchemy of medieval near east/arabia; every matter from produced from fire, water, earth, air and aether (which is also called universal). Even unique spell casters of Zakhara like Ghul Lords (they are necromancer) has their contacts from negative energy plane (another inner plane). This is why any ajami spell casters can't use Zakharan scrolls or spellbook.And same thing also applied to them too. They are totaly based on different ways. Well it is early morning here in Turkey and I did not sleep for whole night and I have to write some stuff about madrasas for tomorrow so I have to leave now. But I will return tomorrow adn I also will read all posts on this subject.And of course will come with ideas :D If you wish to contact me or ask anything you may do this from here or e-mail/msn. e-mail/msn: [EMAIL="oqlanth@hotmail.com"]oqlanth@hotmail.com[/EMAIL] Well see you tomorrow [/QUOTE]
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