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<blockquote data-quote="Jubelo" data-source="post: 4464644" data-attributes="member: 50">Hi, Hodag <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; The reasons I thought Nasnas may be minions at higher level is, in A Dozen and One Adventures, one of the bbeg's had a force of 50 (campaign book, p 20) and that they only had 2+2 hit dice, about half of an ogre's in that edition.A question I asked in the other 4eAQ thread was, 'which monsters do you see in the epic and paragon tiers'?&nbsp; Efreet are now only in the elite tier; should there be lesser djinn or should the players learn to mind their p's and q's the hard way?I also saw that camels, elephants, giant ants and sharks are covered in the Adventurer's Vault, although I haven't seen it yet.Jon</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jubelo, post: 4464644, member: 50"] Hi, Hodag :) The reasons I thought Nasnas may be minions at higher level is, in A Dozen and One Adventures, one of the bbeg's had a force of 50 (campaign book, p 20) and that they only had 2+2 hit dice, about half of an ogre's in that edition. A question I asked in the other 4eAQ thread was, 'which monsters do you see in the epic and paragon tiers'? Efreet are now only in the elite tier; should there be lesser djinn or should the players learn to mind their p's and q's the hard way? I also saw that camels, elephants, giant ants and sharks are covered in the Adventurer's Vault, although I haven't seen it yet. Jon [/QUOTE]

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