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<blockquote data-quote="questing gm" data-source="post: 4377076" data-attributes="member: 24003">I was stating out the differences between the 2 systems and really wasn't intending to 'dump down' the 4E as being 'stupid'. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/blush.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":blush:" title="Blush&nbsp; &nbsp; :blush:" data-shortname=":blush:" />Ultimately, the choice of which system to run with (or lack thereof) is up to the group and campaign style. If you wanted characters to be well developed from the onset because the group is playing in a political intrigue campaign, I would say that the 9 alignment system would be a better indication of character motives, agenda and objectives. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses&nbsp; &nbsp; B-)" data-shortname="B-)" />4E design does not seem to have the 9 alignment system in mind because it catered to players who wanted characters to kick butt. There is simply not much point of having a real abstract foundation of character personality when the same goal comes down to XP and treasure (in terms of design). <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Also, with the 5 alignment system, I'm hoping to see less alignment threads in this forum because it's no longer such an issue as it was in the 9 alignment system. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/angel.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":angel:" title="Angel&nbsp; &nbsp; :angel:" data-shortname=":angel:" />It's a matter of preference and using the right tool to each their own uses. My previous post was not intended to hand out malice and contempt against one over the other (I like them both equally, as tools) <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing&nbsp; &nbsp; :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />If I really wanted to run a political campaign added with butt kicking goodness elements that 4E provides, I would put the 9 system alignment back in (much to the chargin of my group, however) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="questing gm, post: 4377076, member: 24003"] I was stating out the differences between the 2 systems and really wasn't intending to 'dump down' the 4E as being 'stupid'. :blush: Ultimately, the choice of which system to run with (or lack thereof) is up to the group and campaign style. If you wanted characters to be well developed from the onset because the group is playing in a political intrigue campaign, I would say that the 9 alignment system would be a better indication of character motives, agenda and objectives. B-) 4E design does not seem to have the 9 alignment system in mind because it catered to players who wanted characters to kick butt. There is simply not much point of having a real abstract foundation of character personality when the same goal comes down to XP and treasure (in terms of design). :D Also, with the 5 alignment system, I'm hoping to see less alignment threads in this forum because it's no longer such an issue as it was in the 9 alignment system. :angel: It's a matter of preference and using the right tool to each their own uses. My previous post was not intended to hand out malice and contempt against one over the other (I like them both equally, as tools) :lol: If I really wanted to run a political campaign added with butt kicking goodness elements that 4E provides, I would put the 9 system alignment back in (much to the chargin of my group, however) ;) [/QUOTE]

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