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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4384529" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>And that's the whole point that I'm questioning. Right there. You claim that there is a larger fraction of 2e players who liked (and presumably switched) to 3e than there is 3e to 4e.</p><p></p><p>I don't see how you can claim that. In Edina's poll, about 60% of people have made the switch, at least partially. 50% have made the switch fairly strongly. It's currenly less than a month after the release of 4e. In this poll, of those that made the switch to 3e, only 53% had done so by this same point in time.</p><p></p><p>You repeatedly claim that the remaining 40% will not switch. Or, at least large numbers of them will not. But, the last time around, we had about the same numbers switching immedietely, with the remainder coming in at a later time.</p><p></p><p>Note, I'm only looking at those who actually did move to 3e. It's pointless to include those who never made the move in here because it doesn't answer the question. </p><p></p><p>You're claiming that large numbers of that 40% who have not switched will not ever switch over. That's the only way you get your "large divide" in the community. Note the "large" part there. I never claimed that there was no divide. That would be silly all things considered. I'm questioning the "large" part.</p><p></p><p>Half of the people who moved from 2e to 3e did so sometime AFTER the release of 3e. A large chunk pretty much immedietely after, with about another third trickling in later.</p><p></p><p>I have heard no evidence as to why this trend should not repeat in 4e. All of the factors that slowed people's change before still apply.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it is not that simple.</p><p></p><p>You have absolutely no evidence to back that up with other than personal annecdote. </p><p></p><p>One thing I will certainly grant you though is that in straight number terms, you are likely right, for the simple fact that there are a hell of a lot more gamers now than there was 9 years ago. Gaming's considerably more popular today than it was in 1999.</p><p></p><p>Percentagewise, I think you're out to lunch. But, in straight number terms? You're probably dead on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4384529, member: 22779"] And that's the whole point that I'm questioning. Right there. You claim that there is a larger fraction of 2e players who liked (and presumably switched) to 3e than there is 3e to 4e. I don't see how you can claim that. In Edina's poll, about 60% of people have made the switch, at least partially. 50% have made the switch fairly strongly. It's currenly less than a month after the release of 4e. In this poll, of those that made the switch to 3e, only 53% had done so by this same point in time. You repeatedly claim that the remaining 40% will not switch. Or, at least large numbers of them will not. But, the last time around, we had about the same numbers switching immedietely, with the remainder coming in at a later time. Note, I'm only looking at those who actually did move to 3e. It's pointless to include those who never made the move in here because it doesn't answer the question. You're claiming that large numbers of that 40% who have not switched will not ever switch over. That's the only way you get your "large divide" in the community. Note the "large" part there. I never claimed that there was no divide. That would be silly all things considered. I'm questioning the "large" part. Half of the people who moved from 2e to 3e did so sometime AFTER the release of 3e. A large chunk pretty much immedietely after, with about another third trickling in later. I have heard no evidence as to why this trend should not repeat in 4e. All of the factors that slowed people's change before still apply. No, it is not that simple. You have absolutely no evidence to back that up with other than personal annecdote. One thing I will certainly grant you though is that in straight number terms, you are likely right, for the simple fact that there are a hell of a lot more gamers now than there was 9 years ago. Gaming's considerably more popular today than it was in 1999. Percentagewise, I think you're out to lunch. But, in straight number terms? You're probably dead on. [/QUOTE]
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