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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4423893" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>I don't neccesarily mean "Rated R," just that things are handled without hypersanitizing something to the point of nonsense.</p><p></p><p>I mean things like showing that violence has consequences- I'd rather have a kid (who is old enough but still a minor) realize that shooting a gun at someone hurts or kills them, rather than the old "G.I. Joe" model, in which gunplay happens all the time and everyone is smiling and clean at the end of the comic or TV show.</p><p></p><p>Or that vigilantism isn't universally respected and appreciated by law enforcement.</p><p></p><p>Or that someone who uses drugs isn't going to kick the habit with easy grace.</p><p></p><p>Etc.</p><p></p><p>And really, as was pointed out before, the stories weren't presented in lurid or purient ways- it was generally done with taste and style.</p><p></p><p>Once kids reach 7-10 years of age, you have to stop sheltering them completely. The revelations should come in incremental doses, but there's nothing wrong with a kid old enough to read Superman being exposed to RW life lessons in comic books.</p><p></p><p>(OTOH, I have a bit of a skewed view on this- I was reading at the college level in second grade, so I had read the Illiad and the LotR books by age 8.)</p><p></p><p>Besides, its not as if comics are just for kids. There is also nothing wrong with having the myriad of Spider-Man titles offerring storylines of varying sophistication. One could be exclusively for the kiddies, one for Y-A audiences, and still others could be for the 18+ age group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4423893, member: 19675"] I don't neccesarily mean "Rated R," just that things are handled without hypersanitizing something to the point of nonsense. I mean things like showing that violence has consequences- I'd rather have a kid (who is old enough but still a minor) realize that shooting a gun at someone hurts or kills them, rather than the old "G.I. Joe" model, in which gunplay happens all the time and everyone is smiling and clean at the end of the comic or TV show. Or that vigilantism isn't universally respected and appreciated by law enforcement. Or that someone who uses drugs isn't going to kick the habit with easy grace. Etc. And really, as was pointed out before, the stories weren't presented in lurid or purient ways- it was generally done with taste and style. Once kids reach 7-10 years of age, you have to stop sheltering them completely. The revelations should come in incremental doses, but there's nothing wrong with a kid old enough to read Superman being exposed to RW life lessons in comic books. (OTOH, I have a bit of a skewed view on this- I was reading at the college level in second grade, so I had read the Illiad and the LotR books by age 8.) Besides, its not as if comics are just for kids. There is also nothing wrong with having the myriad of Spider-Man titles offerring storylines of varying sophistication. One could be exclusively for the kiddies, one for Y-A audiences, and still others could be for the 18+ age group. [/QUOTE]
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