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Forked Thread: D&D needs to grow up (ala scifi in the mid-20th century?)
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<blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 4425119" data-attributes="member: 3887"><p>Now that I'm done with some family medical issues, I can get back to this...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I know... my attempt at being clever got the better of my point. I can't tell you how often that happens to me. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that's right. BTW, I think of an "art form" as mainly rhetorical convenience.. I mean, as a way of grouping like modes of artistic expression, techniques, or even themes so as to facilitate critiquing them. </p><p></p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that I don't see how calling D&D an art form helps the discussion. It's distracting. Better to say that a specific instance of an RPG or RPG play is <em>artistic</em>, rather than attempt to frame the entire category as a mode of art. </p><p></p><p>For example, consider the game of chess used in work of art; the board and pieces in a sculpture, it's image in a painting, as a metaphor or plot point in a novel or play, whatever. Chess can be crucial to a pieces of art... but that doesn't make chess itself an art form. Or, rather, nothing is gained by categorizing chess as such. It illuminates nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mallus, post: 4425119, member: 3887"] Now that I'm done with some family medical issues, I can get back to this... I know... my attempt at being clever got the better of my point. I can't tell you how often that happens to me. I think that's right. BTW, I think of an "art form" as mainly rhetorical convenience.. I mean, as a way of grouping like modes of artistic expression, techniques, or even themes so as to facilitate critiquing them. What I'm saying is that I don't see how calling D&D an art form helps the discussion. It's distracting. Better to say that a specific instance of an RPG or RPG play is [i]artistic[/i], rather than attempt to frame the entire category as a mode of art. For example, consider the game of chess used in work of art; the board and pieces in a sculpture, it's image in a painting, as a metaphor or plot point in a novel or play, whatever. Chess can be crucial to a pieces of art... but that doesn't make chess itself an art form. Or, rather, nothing is gained by categorizing chess as such. It illuminates nothing. [/QUOTE]
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