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<blockquote data-quote="Starfox" data-source="post: 4495274" data-attributes="member: 2303">The basic assumption in the D&amp;D rules, and indeed in most games I've run, is that the players are heroes by default. If an ethical code hasn't been mentioned, you are the good guys. This applies even in games like Shadowrun where this is a clearly detrimental attitude for the players (it is much better to go independent and steal cars than to do shadowruns and be betrayed by Mr. Johnsson.)Running a game for non-heroic players is a completely different thing. Heroes are reactive - they want to lash out at evil. Bad guys are often proactive - they go out plundering the weak, not looking for the strong to fight them. This forces the DM to send good-guy opponents at bad PCs, which takes away much of their initiative. Suddenly, when they are all spread out and out looting and pillaging, a band of heroes ambushes and kills one of them, then disappears into he grass. Yay, lots of fun! And yet, this is the kind of thing heroic PCs do all the time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Starfox, post: 4495274, member: 2303"] The basic assumption in the D&D rules, and indeed in most games I've run, is that the players are heroes by default. If an ethical code hasn't been mentioned, you are the good guys. This applies even in games like Shadowrun where this is a clearly detrimental attitude for the players (it is much better to go independent and steal cars than to do shadowruns and be betrayed by Mr. Johnsson.) Running a game for non-heroic players is a completely different thing. Heroes are reactive - they want to lash out at evil. Bad guys are often proactive - they go out plundering the weak, not looking for the strong to fight them. This forces the DM to send good-guy opponents at bad PCs, which takes away much of their initiative. Suddenly, when they are all spread out and out looting and pillaging, a band of heroes ambushes and kills one of them, then disappears into he grass. Yay, lots of fun! And yet, this is the kind of thing heroic PCs do all the time. [/QUOTE]

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