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<blockquote data-quote="Imban" data-source="post: 4529080" data-attributes="member: 29206">Hmm, not entirely. I can go off of &quot;Human Fighter 12&quot; in 2e D&amp;D just as well. But having a detailed mechanical representation of a character that I don't want to play is the worst. I don't think any version of D&amp;D does this, but a lot of games have things like WoD's derangements acquired in play which... well, now my character has a detailed mechanic for his being nuts in a way I don't like.M&amp;M is one of my favorite systems ever, partially because of this.I could argue that 'deciding what your character would do' is partially a function of the rules and scenario (insofar as we're assuming the GM isn't throwing all the rules out and may not necessarily be writing the scenario) but it's not a very productive line of argument. In general, yes, the GM (and play group - if your entire group just wants to roll dice and reduce HPs to 0, you're not gonna get much RP either) is the determinant of that.&nbsp;Yes, though I wouldn't say I don't like &quot;4e Skill Challenges&quot;. I don't like a lot - possibly the majority, but I'm not currently tempted to go count - of specific 4e Skill Challenges that are written in the DMG or in adventure modules because they put me in an external-narration / director / author / whatever role that I'm not a fan of having during play unless I am the GM.It's certainly possible to write or run a Skill Challenge that does not put you in that role. There are some extant in the DMG and in adventure modules, for instance.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imban, post: 4529080, member: 29206"] Hmm, not entirely. I can go off of "Human Fighter 12" in 2e D&D just as well. But having a detailed mechanical representation of a character that I [B]don't[/B] want to play is the worst. I don't think any version of D&D does this, but a lot of games have things like WoD's derangements acquired in play which... well, now my character has a detailed mechanic for his being nuts in a way I don't like. M&M is one of my favorite systems ever, partially because of this. I could argue that 'deciding what your character would do' is partially a function of the rules and scenario (insofar as we're assuming the GM isn't throwing all the rules out and may not necessarily be writing the scenario) but it's not a very productive line of argument. In general, yes, the GM (and play group - if your entire group just wants to roll dice and reduce HPs to 0, you're not gonna get much RP either) is the determinant of that. Yes, though I wouldn't say I don't like "4e Skill Challenges". I don't like a lot - possibly the majority, but I'm not currently tempted to go count - of [B]specific[/B] 4e Skill Challenges that are written in the DMG or in adventure modules because they put me in an external-narration / director / author / whatever role that I'm not a fan of having during play unless I am the GM. It's certainly possible to write or run a Skill Challenge that does not put you in that role. There are some extant in the DMG and in adventure modules, for instance. [/QUOTE]

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