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<blockquote data-quote="Imban" data-source="post: 4531439" data-attributes="member: 29206">Because &quot;upgrades&quot; have very high (near 100% for free ones!) acceptance rates for a simple reason - they are, in almost all ways, just plain better than what came before, without &quot;Well, tradeoffs have been made...&quot; nonsense. Almost no one wants to play NWN with no expansions or patches when they could play NWN with both expansions and patch 1.69, and most of the people who DO play an older version are doing it for reasons of compatibility with a specific module or server, not because they prefer it.On the other hand, especially if the editions are aimed at different things - and I'm going to look at you real funny if you try to suggest the design goals of 2e, 3e, and 4e are the same - you're not creating &quot;the old game, but better&quot;, you're creating a new game that looks or acts like an old game in some ways. Because it does, it appeals to a large section of the same fanbase, but not the near-100% of the true &quot;upgrade&quot;. See the Interplay Fallouts versus Fallout 3 for details.Indeed. And Exalted 2e met with very high acceptance, especially right after the corebook was released. Some people didn't like the newfangled &quot;tick&quot; thing, but most Exalted players I know liked it... until a lot later on in the line when WW started going for crapping into a book in lieu of good design.If the acceptance rates for &quot;upgrades&quot; are much higher than for &quot;new games&quot;, marketing it as anything but an upgrade that is still the same game and fixes all of the problems of the old game and does everything better, including wash your dishes is the only thing that makes sense. So no.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imban, post: 4531439, member: 29206"] Because "upgrades" have very high (near 100% for free ones!) acceptance rates for a simple reason - they are, in almost all ways, just plain better than what came before, without "Well, tradeoffs have been made..." nonsense. Almost no one wants to play NWN with no expansions or patches when they could play NWN with both expansions and patch 1.69, and most of the people who DO play an older version are doing it for reasons of compatibility with a specific module or server, not because they prefer it. On the other hand, especially if the editions are aimed at different things - and I'm going to look at you real funny if you try to suggest the design goals of 2e, 3e, and 4e are the same - you're not creating "the old game, but better", you're creating a new game that looks or acts like an old game in some ways. Because it does, it appeals to a large section of the same fanbase, but not the near-100% of the true "upgrade". See the Interplay Fallouts versus Fallout 3 for details. Indeed. And Exalted 2e met with very high acceptance, especially right after the corebook was released. Some people didn't like the newfangled "tick" thing, but most Exalted players I know liked it... until a lot later on in the line when WW started going for crapping into a book in lieu of good design. If the acceptance rates for "upgrades" are much higher than for "new games", marketing it as anything but an upgrade that is still the same game and fixes all of the problems of the old game and does everything better, including wash your dishes is the only thing that makes sense. So no. [/QUOTE]

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