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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4531694" data-attributes="member: 19675">Whether the new edition of a game is an upgrade or a new game varies with the details of the new product in question.I've been through every version of HERO, and the only one I didn't like, the only one that felt like a new game was the Fuzion version.&nbsp; The rest were upgrades.&nbsp; The Fuzion incarnation of it, however, was soooooo different that I couldn't even enjoy PC creation.&nbsp; It was a different game, and I avoided HERO until that experiment was over.With D&amp;D, its a bit murkier.&nbsp; Unlike HERO, there were definite mechanical differences as 1Ed transitioned to 3.X, but to me they all had enough of the same &quot;feel&quot; that each felt like upgrades to me.&nbsp; That converting from one edition to the next was easy or, in the case of 3Ed, facilitated by the RPG company that released the product meant that I could run the same campaign for 2+decades while maintaining continuity across the 3 different systems.4Ed broke that line of continuity with radically different underlying assumptions about what people wanted from the game- different races became default, fewer playstyles were supported.&nbsp; Concepts that always seemed to be at the core of the game, things that set it apart from other FRPGS were winnowed away.&nbsp; Thus it seems more like a completely different game to me.Its different enough that like many other people out there, despite the printed words on the covers, its not D&amp;D to me- its a different game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4531694, member: 19675"] Whether the new edition of a game is an upgrade or a new game varies with the details of the new product in question. I've been through every version of HERO, and the only one I didn't like, the only one that felt like a new game was the Fuzion version. The rest were upgrades. The Fuzion incarnation of it, however, was soooooo different that I couldn't even enjoy PC creation. It was a different game, and I avoided HERO until that experiment was over. With D&D, its a bit murkier. Unlike HERO, there were definite mechanical differences as 1Ed transitioned to 3.X, but to me they all had enough of the same "feel" that each felt like upgrades to me. That converting from one edition to the next was easy or, in the case of 3Ed, facilitated by the RPG company that released the product meant that I could run the same campaign for 2+decades while maintaining continuity across the 3 different systems. 4Ed broke that line of continuity with radically different underlying assumptions about what people wanted from the game- different races became default, fewer playstyles were supported. Concepts that always seemed to be at the core of the game, things that set it apart from other FRPGS were winnowed away. Thus it seems more like a completely different game to me. Its different enough that like many other people out there, despite the printed words on the covers, its not D&D to [I]me[/I]- its a different game. [/QUOTE]

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